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Old 11 June 2009, 03:26 PM
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hi there i have recently got hold ov a ej22 lump which i believe is the legacy bottom end its fitted with sti ver 4 heads and cams a ggr uprated oil pump il be fitting my mods off my old engine to this also but was wondering what to do as i plan too forge the engine and possable stroker but i was planning on fitting the engine as it is now too check rotated turbo setup fits well and make sure its a good 1 b4 i start spending out big on it.

im unsure weather to storker it to a 2.33 as i dont think these are cdb and not sure what power the actual blocks can take??and if its worth it as im not after massive power about 400/400 so is it worth strokering it if so what is the best way??

any advise on this would be great help or any info on the block and internals and capabilties would be a great help aswell cheers
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I suggest having a chat to Mark at Lateral Performance, who can advise you and stocks all the parts for stroking a EJ22.
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I was at Zen's last Fri having a remap and the chap before me had a MY95 (or 96) Type RA with big turbo (unknown), 740s, APEXi PFC, all the other usual mods.... and a 2.2 lump

It made 384bhp with ease on Zen's rollers - it was his MAF holding him back. I believe he's going back for a remap with a replacement Z32 MAF plonked in, to achieve about 420-440bhp.

So the EJ22 lump itself is good for your goals - just will prob be a tad revvier than a 2.33...

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cheers for reply guys iv been told too speak to mark i hear nothing but good things about him also once i decided weather or not to stroker he be the 1 im calling..

im undecided if i need to stroker it yet i was just wondering about the limits ov the stock bottom end as i carnt find much on these engines

joe i like the sounds ov that 380ish would do any clues too what internals were in the engine im guessing forged ?? any clue too the kinda torq it was making at that level also??
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His engine was built by his engine builder (who was along with him lol). Not sure, but he must have had forged rods, pistons, uprated bearings (and crank maybe?) I would have thought... What brands though, I dont know.

His torque figure, from memory, was 360-odd lb ft...

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cheers bud i think il see how std lump runs then think forge or possable full on stroker build is the way too go cheers for info bud
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why stroker it? mines ej22 with 0.40" oversize, got all bits from flatlander and mine fookin flies bud
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cheers for reply ej22 i was thinking strokering for big power later on so the extra cc will help with a nice big turbo but also here the 2.33 conversion is the engine to have plus unkown milage and what not on the bottom end

i think if im gonna fork out for a new crank id have a steel billet 1 with a 79mm stroke what can be used with centre or rear thrust bearing so havent gotta worry about having block machined for the bearings that way...any clues to what urs is running power and torq??also what mods??
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Ive just aquired a brand new EJ22T closed deck short block unassembled. Im keeping it 2.2 but not using the EJ22T pistons and rods as i want to run over 400bhp.
Looked at the 2.35 route and its big money with machine work custom rods etc. Just going to put good forged internals in it run it with AVCS heads and an MD321T so i should see good results.

No need to rotate with the stock mount turbos that are out there now!

So i have some Brand new EJ22T pistons and rods going spare lol.

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i guessing its cost you a arm and a leg for a brand new block was it that 1 on ebay and also on here??nice plug about the pistons and rods lol i think i may just fit it as it is now run it and go for a straight forge build in the winter as not looking for massive power some info on the engine be great as its the legacy lump so is there any difference in it??
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Originally Posted by mattybr5
cheers for reply ej22 i was thinking strokering for big power later on so the extra cc will help with a nice big turbo but also here the 2.33 conversion is the engine to have plus unkown milage and what not on the bottom end

i think if im gonna fork out for a new crank id have a steel billet 1 with a 79mm stroke what can be used with centre or rear thrust bearing so havent gotta worry about having block machined for the bearings that way...any clues to what urs is running power and torq??also what mods??
The cost of a new good quality billet crank is about £1300 to £1600, whereas machining the block for a rear thrust crank is about £150 to £250. The EJ257 crank is more than up to the job and around £350 iirc.

Even if you don't decide to stroke it and just want to go the forged internals route, it is still worth speaking to Mark ... he is usually fair bit cheaper than anywhere else on parts too.
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Old 14 June 2009, 01:43 PM
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cheers for reply's guys i think im gonna forge it and forget about strokering it unless there is a problem with the crank when i come to building it i think marek is the surplyer i will use also
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Matty i got it at a price we both agreed on! Not sure if it was on here but it was on the bay.

Are you sure its the turbo block you got and not the NA legacy 2.2!

Not sure why loads on here are hell bent on the ph2 rear thrust crank. The early one is still good and uprated nitraded ones are available.

IMO Lateral is expensive for Pistons.
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i think i seen the block you had wish i had the money at the time to have bidded on it..

yes its defo a ej22t block i think im gonna trail fit it for now see how it runs as and forge it over winter months i think

i have seen pistons and defo rods cheaper than lateral but hear mark is second to none and also want a few more bits off him so hopefully get a good package deal
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I think Mark at Lateral Performance is a fair chap when it comes to advice and pricing up on build/parts.
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Originally Posted by JP4
I think Mark at Lateral Performance is a fair chap when it comes to advice and pricing up on build/parts.
Have to agree on that one...Mark supplied me all my bits for my 2.35...top bloke with time to talk...Alan...
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Originally Posted by 71/200

IMO Lateral is expensive for Pistons.
Just remember thats Marks rods and pistons are bespoke to him and should not be looked at as off the shelf items.

Also remember that if your going down the forged route you will not have to cut piston skirts to clear the oil squirters (which could weaken piston) if you use Laterals Rods and Pistons.

Oh and i can also tell you that quite a few of the BIG boys use him making his equipment tried and tested.

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