Low fuel pressure? Mapping problem. 800cc running at 600cc
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Hi,
I had my car mapped by AndyF yesterday and he noticed that my 800cc injectors were maxing out at 600 cc (could only run my MD321T to 1.6 bar) I checked with the person who sold me the injectors and they were flow tested at 800cc.
Andy said it could possibly be a problem some where else in the fuel system, i've got a Walbro fuel pump (do these sometimes fail?) apart from that everything else is standard. Is there a way to check if anything is wrong in the fuel system? Also what pressure should it be running standard?
thanks in advance
I had my car mapped by AndyF yesterday and he noticed that my 800cc injectors were maxing out at 600 cc (could only run my MD321T to 1.6 bar) I checked with the person who sold me the injectors and they were flow tested at 800cc.
Andy said it could possibly be a problem some where else in the fuel system, i've got a Walbro fuel pump (do these sometimes fail?) apart from that everything else is standard. Is there a way to check if anything is wrong in the fuel system? Also what pressure should it be running standard?
thanks in advance
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Standard fuel pressure is 3.0bar I think?
What year is your car? My bugeye with same turbo,550cc (PINK) injectors ,255 walbro pump and FPR was set at 3.2bar.
It peaked at 1.7bar and kepts pretty good down to 1.6bar and 1.55bar.
One thing I did do prior to the map to get the best out of it was change the fuel filter too to be on the safe side.
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What year is your car? My bugeye with same turbo,550cc (PINK) injectors ,255 walbro pump and FPR was set at 3.2bar.
It peaked at 1.7bar and kepts pretty good down to 1.6bar and 1.55bar.
One thing I did do prior to the map to get the best out of it was change the fuel filter too to be on the safe side.
Steve
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Hi Steve,
Its a JDM STi Bug eye. Did a fuel filter change before the map, it's defo not the injectors though they were flow matched about a month ago to 800cc, maybe the walbro has gone bad.
Its a JDM STi Bug eye. Did a fuel filter change before the map, it's defo not the injectors though they were flow matched about a month ago to 800cc, maybe the walbro has gone bad.
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yThe pumps do fail yes. I had mine mapped many moons ago and after about a year noticed i was getting some knock activity> took it back to the mapper and it was the pump found not to be supplying enough pressure at middle/high revs. a pump replacement solved it
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Don't think I need a adjustable fuel pressure regulator, Andy just runs bigger injectors no AFPR on his 500 HP Spec C.
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you need to borrow a fuel pressure gauge and monitor pressure on boost.. it should go to 3bar plus boost pressure roughly and hold all the time on boost.. I suspect it will drop off at high rpm.. could be either the fuel pump or the fuel pressure reg
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Banny,
I was under the impression i wouldn't need a AFPR for my 800cc's to run 800. Andy didn't mention that when he was telling me what could be up with the fueling. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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I was under the impression i wouldn't need a AFPR for my 800cc's to run 800. Andy didn't mention that when he was telling me what could be up with the fueling. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Cheers in advance
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Cheers
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I don't totally agree.. you would see more cc from them with adjustable reg but the flow tests are normally done at 3bar (ie. standard pressure).
Have you put a fuel pressure gauge on and checked the pressure? you will probably find the fuel pressure is dropping off?
If it isn't then fitting an adjustable FPR would give you more headroom yes but I see no issue running larger injectors on the standard FPR.. higher pressure can help atomisation and they will obviously flow more but you still should get close to 800cc on the standard FPR imho
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Have you put a fuel pressure gauge on and checked the pressure? you will probably find the fuel pressure is dropping off?
If it isn't then fitting an adjustable FPR would give you more headroom yes but I see no issue running larger injectors on the standard FPR.. higher pressure can help atomisation and they will obviously flow more but you still should get close to 800cc on the standard FPR imho
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I don't totally agree.. you would see more cc from them with adjustable reg but the flow tests are normally done at 3bar (ie. standard pressure).
Have you put a fuel pressure gauge on and checked the pressure? you will probably find the fuel pressure is dropping off?
If it isn't then fitting an adjustable FPR would give you more headroom yes but I see no issue running larger injectors on the standard FPR.. higher pressure can help atomisation and they will obviously flow more but you still should get close to 800cc on the standard FPR imho
Simon
Have you put a fuel pressure gauge on and checked the pressure? you will probably find the fuel pressure is dropping off?
If it isn't then fitting an adjustable FPR would give you more headroom yes but I see no issue running larger injectors on the standard FPR.. higher pressure can help atomisation and they will obviously flow more but you still should get close to 800cc on the standard FPR imho
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Reminds me dear boy. Going to see Mark next week about the flow tested injectors. Then another session with me and the mask.
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I wasn't there when Neil(my brother) got Andy to map the car, but apparently setting the injectors at 800cc caused audible knock at idle, so it wasn't like it was leaning out as load/revs rose. I think it's his fuel pressure that's the problem.
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