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Old 09 October 2009 | 10:56 PM
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when i connect the flash/reflash connector it doesnt connect

i am using RRlogger to watch the flash connection and test connections.
when the green test block is connected the logger shows it and the car starts its test cycle.- all okay!
but when i connect the white flash connector or use a jumper it does not register and the ecu/logger thinks it is still disconnected,

could this be a ecu map lock out feature or is there another connection or fuse some where??

the flash connector has been tested for continuity and is okay
got latest defs and drivers
using tacktrix openport 2


also next to the flash and test connectors is black connector with 4wires, whats this one for?
and also there is two black wires with silver dots along them taped up next to the flash connector, any ideas?
Old 09 October 2009 | 11:07 PM
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You told us all that, but nothing about the car you're trying to flash. That'd help. Also probably worth mentioning that the best place for help with with this kind of thing is the open source flashing forums.
Old 09 October 2009 | 11:39 PM
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Some cars can be fussy, you need to turn the ignition on right after you click OK.

As above, need to know what car it is to know if it's been locked.
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Default its an impreza 2001 WRX UK300

its an impreza 2001 WRX UK300
the ecu type is supported by ecuflash and romraider logger works fine

the flash read/write connection state does not change and stays unconnected according to the ECU and Logger.
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ecu type - AS4E900D
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i've tried all thee other forums, but no one can help.
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could the flash connector wires be traced back to ecu and shorted there???

some one must be able to help, tried geekmapped,scoobypediea,openecu and still no replys
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So, to get this straight, you're connecting the jumper block(this can be installed permantly btw), you're connecting the green connectors, you're choosing the correct car to read/write to/from, you're turning the ignition to on and immediatly clicking OK. Does it continue to cycle the fuel pump on/off? Are you sure the car hasn't been ECUTek tuned?
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yes, doing it all as per instructions, tried connecting in different orders as well.

If i use the logger to watch the connectors state, the green test mode connector is working and I can see its state changing in the logger window as it is connected and disconnected but when the flash connector is connected nothing happens either to the car or in the logger window.
When i try reading the rom the car just cycles the fans and pump, just as if just the test connector was connected by itself.
I think the car was peviously mapped a long time ago by The Racing Lince (UK) Ltd- Engine & ECU Modification and Tuning, Turbo Kits & Superchargers up north in yorkshire, ive emailed them to see i they lock the ecu's they map but no reply yet.
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Some ecutek stuff can only be reflashed using ecutek once the licence has been put on. The software locks the ecu so it cant be written to read by other software
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I wonder if that would cause the ecu not to recognise the flash conection being connected?

I cant understad how the mapping is so far out if it was done a while back,
take a look at the logs so far -
data logs - Windows Live

Got a copy of ecuunlock but not sure if it works with scoobies
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As I've said on RR, you need to do some 3rd gear 2k to red line pulls.
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I had this problem on my STI8 once. The reflash connector just decided to stop working and the car would go straight into ordinary test mode instead. After much faff it started working again. Can't say which of the following fixed it but enclosed is what I tried, afterwhich it started working again:

1) bent the reflash connectors slightly so they were forced onto the block at an angle. The reflash connectors are reported on US forums as prone to failure so I wanted to be sure there was force between the contacts. (Even though my multimeter said the block was ok, that's no indication that it made good contact on the terminal block)

2) Disconnected the battery for a few min.

3) Reset the ECU from Romraider successfully even though it said it was disconnected.

Voila - it started working again although it could have been coincidence. One thing I am sure of is that is definitely possible to get the ECU into a 'confused' state. e.g. if I turn my ignition off after a logging run and disconnect the cables without first turning off logging, my battery drains beyond recovery in about 7 hours, i.e. the ECU is capable of some unpredictable behaviour....
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Originally Posted by aXeL
I had this problem on my STI8 once. The reflash connector just decided to stop working and the car would go straight into ordinary test mode instead. After much faff it started working again. Can't say which of the following fixed it but enclosed is what I tried, afterwhich it started working again:

1) bent the reflash connectors slightly so they were forced onto the block at an angle. The reflash connectors are reported on US forums as prone to failure so I wanted to be sure there was force between the contacts. (Even though my multimeter said the block was ok, that's no indication that it made good contact on the terminal block)

2) Disconnected the battery for a few min.

3) Reset the ECU from Romraider successfully even though it said it was disconnected.

Voila - it started working again although it could have been coincidence. One thing I am sure of is that is definitely possible to get the ECU into a 'confused' state. e.g. if I turn my ignition off after a logging run and disconnect the cables without first turning off logging, my battery drains beyond recovery in about 7 hours, i.e. the ECU is capable of some unpredictable behaviour....

thanks for the advice, but ive tried all that and still no joy :-(
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Is the car still going into test mode with the block connected? i.e. you hear the fans spinning up and down?
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yeah it goes into test mode when the green block is connected and the same with both green and black blocks connected.
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Ok. Black Block? The only ones I've seen are White (03 - 05) and blue (01 - 02). Just rechecked Tactrix site. Not seen a black jumper block anywhere on there. Is there any chance you can post a piccy of the front and back of the jumper block? Unless others know better, this doesn't sound like it's the right one.
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sorry meant white
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Ok, if it's a 2001 car then you should be using the blue (according to the Tactrix blurb). The White one is for the Mk3. You're aware there's more than one connector block under the dash right?
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Originally Posted by aXeL
Ok, if it's a 2001 car then you should be using the blue (according to the Tactrix blurb). The White one is for the Mk3. You're aware there's more than one connector block under the dash right?

there is a green test mode connector and a white read/write memory connector, there is no blue connectors
but there is two black wires with silver dots taped to the test connector wires, when untaped they both have metal pins soldered on the ends(like test pins), not sure what they are.
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you can see the two black/silver dotted wires with the red tape on the end also further up the lead is a black connector with blue tape on it
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Did you find out if it has been ECUTek'd?

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apparently it has been mapped by The Racing Lince (UK) Ltd- Engine & ECU Modification and Tuning, Turbo Kits & Superchargers
i emailed them asking if they lock the ecu but they wont reply.
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The blue block I'm referring to is the one you plug onto the wiring loom, i.e. the tactrix one. Should've explained myself better.

In your picture, next to the green connectors is the slightly larger white one. Can you show it end on? Also, how many wires feed it? I know it's a pain; now you need to take another pic! It does look suspiciously like the one which requires the blue tactrix connector but I can't be sure from this angle.
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The white connector there takes the blue block to get it into a reflashable state.

Green test connectors should be connected and the ignition should be turned on just before asking to read the rom.

Chances are though that the ecu is locked if it is a wrx300.

Where are you based?
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What type of jumper are you using in the white block, the proper one or a homemade cable? , ive got a uk300 and it works fine,
To get it to work tho i do the following
open up ecuflash
Click on read
choose vehicle etc
When it says turn the iginition on - do it but press o.k just after.(dont delay)
You will notice the engine light isnt even on and the fans are not running etc, it should connect to the ecu fine, you just have to be fairly quick with it.
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