had to remove the cam belt to repair the woodruff key because some idiot who did the cambelt did not tighten the crank bolt up

have replaced the woodruff key and put the cam belt back on but not any of the aux belts,started the car and it does not want to run it backfires and it sounds like it wants to go but when you put your foot down on the pedal it sort of dies and i can hear lots of electrical clicking ,because ive had the bonnet up in the rain would this be the problem or not

 

sounds like you havn't timed it right recheck the timing marks are still lined up cheers dave

 

i have done that and my friend was there and he says that they were right aswell,
does not sound like any parts are hitting,it does sound like the throtle sensor is shorting and the boost solenoid is clicking away

 

Ok it could be that the leads are damp.....but it is possible that the crank pulley is timed incorrectly......When you lined all the timing marks up remember that the crank should be timed using the straight mark on the crank pulley and not the arrow.....Infact the arrow on the crank pulley should be at the 3 o clock position if your timing marks are done properly.

ALso ensure that the crank sensor is plugged in properly and function.

 

have a few pics of pulleys in help pages on my website if it helps.. biggest common problem is as Baly says.. crank pulley timed incorrect..

 

i wish i bloody marked the belt with tipex,also when you tighten the belt i found the cams move,needs 2 people really.
had a go at it again last night with a friend but the weather does not help things nor does the lack of light,
o to have a massive garage
i think im one tooth out on the crank sprocket,stupid question next that will make all of cams out then wont it

 

how old is the belt? would be worth considering a new one for markings and not ideal to remove and refit.. unless very young belt

 

belt not that old had it done in wincanton,
ok lined the crank spocket up and the top lh rh were spot on but bottom were one tooth out each,
have now put it back on and the caar still does not run right
did a ecu fault code read and have
45 pressure sensor
31 throtle postion sensor
11 crank position sensor

the car was driving fine until the crank pulley came loose,then all that happened was the power steering when and the battery light came on,still managed to drive home about 2 miles
took pully and belt off and now this, could it be were the weather has got to them
or is it where ive knackered my engine buy putting belt on a few teeth out

not a happy chap

 

If the aux belts are not on the alternator isnt going so maybe the battery isnt upto the job?

just a thought

 

reset the ecu and see which reoccur.

is only a tooth out you won't do damage..

have you had anything else off the car whilst working on it?

Simon

 

You say you havnt got the aux belts on should run with out them ok but you do have the airbox etc on dont you?

 

i have only taken the radiator out,just removed the crank sensor give it a clean as it had some copper grease on it,and am now charging the battery
thanks for your help by the way
when i was messing with the belt the top cam span around of spring but i soon put it back
also the bottom did at another time but that would mean that the valves sat back in the closed position wouldnt it

 

you trying to start the engine with the radiator out?

 

yeah just to make sure it works,have put altinaator and power steering belt back on too,
turns over but sort of wants to start but she just cant manage it ,something is not right am gutted now as the job was going so well until the belt and the bloody rain at same time now this
all marks are in line ,must be damp messing things up or ive damaged engine but it turned by hand ok every time even when i was a tooth out

 

crank sensor should be clean.. no copper grease.

what does it do now?

 

have just tryed it and it still does not fire properly.will reset ecu in morn and then try again and see what codes i have,ill take some photos of the timing for you to see but am now sure after seeing you photos that mine is right,just seems weird that all the sensors are now playing up

 

It may well be flooded now from cranking etc

 

it has made a few back fires ,when it was running it seamed like it was getting half the fuel it needed and would not rev,when i put my foot on throttle it did nothing

 

don't take this the wrong way (I'm only asking because someone had similar problem and it turned out to be...) you got enough fuel in the car?

 

ha ha i was just thinking that, if thats it ill never live it down.
battery charged now going to reset ecu, if you cant drive the car is it still connet black to black and green to green,to cleaar it
also going to heat the sensors with hair dryer,then test them with a volt meter if i can do that
thanks matt

 

Mate leave that car in somewhere that knows what they are doing as you are gonna end up wrecking the car by the sounds of it, no disrespect.

 

i think the damage is done mate, must of bent valves,
well get someone to look at it ,pisssed of as i paid some to do the cambelt and because they did not tighten the pulley up im in this mess

 

Send the guy who done it the bill mate as thats not on and bad workmanship on his part!!

Hope you get it sorted

 

If your not well familiour with the cam belt, ALWAYS buy a new branded belt with timing marks to match up the pulleys.

 

flooded is not such a silly suggestion, ive had all 4 plugs pack up from saturation.........

 

I agree particularly as its been cranked alot and not fireing coz of timing out> it would have still had injector pulsing

 

Do a compression check on it mate just make sure that it's not pissing in the wind.....

 

ive got someone coming today to have a look,see what he says,but yes compression check and cam covers off to see valve clearance,have had back fire threw the air intake so that is a bad sign

 

right my mate has came and he says that i have timed it correctly and that it all sounds ok,
have just whipped plugs out and they are all black but 2 really dirty,so ill try some new plugs,
teusday night my friend spotted some arking on one of the coil leads as it was touching the clamp that holds the wire,does this mean that the sparkplug was not getting the power

 

i had same problem with my car after engine build was the timming was popping and banging on trying to start we was convinced te timming was ok we checked it 3 times but after the 4th we sussed it out and was corrected and fired up first time maybe not the same problem but good luck mate hope your engine is ok