Early classic chip
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Early classic chip
Hi all, I have seen a chip on fleabay from a company called eclipse performance. The chip seems to be very similar to the one for sale by polar peformance but its only 50 notes not 200. I was going to get one for my 96 WRX but was wondering if anyone had any experience of eclipse performance or the chip? It is probably worth a punt at that price but I would like to hear from other people.
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Hi all, I have seen a chip on fleabay from a company called eclipse performance. The chip seems to be very similar to the one for sale by polar peformance but its only 50 notes not 200. I was going to get one for my 96 WRX but was wondering if anyone had any experience of eclipse performance or the chip? It is probably worth a punt at that price but I would like to hear from other people.
Thanks
Thanks
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Subscribe to the "Classified - for sale" threads on here... A Polar Performance one is bound to crop up soon enough (usually already pre-installed into an ECU) - and the whole thing for sale for around £60-80. Just swap 'em over.
The map on the PP chip accounts for the TD05H 16g plus mods upto a IK, decat d/p and full system. Boost is set to 1.1bar and is based on 97 RON (specifically Esso Supreme), with fuelling to spare.
Should typically see around 280bhp.
The map on the PP chip accounts for the TD05H 16g plus mods upto a IK, decat d/p and full system. Boost is set to 1.1bar and is based on 97 RON (specifically Esso Supreme), with fuelling to spare.
Should typically see around 280bhp.
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Hmmm, hope to see a darn site more than 280bhp, mine has been rolling roaded at 287bhp with a TD05 16g, full decat and K&N induction kit, I would hope for 300+ with another 4psi and fuelling mods to match.
Not sure about the comments that the company dont know what they are doing? they say all the same words as polar performance, why trust them and not eclipse??? I was just wondering if anyone had used eclipse or knew of tem??
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Not sure about the comments that the company dont know what they are doing? they say all the same words as polar performance, why trust them and not eclipse??? I was just wondering if anyone had used eclipse or knew of tem??
Thanks for your replies
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Polar Performance is a known quantity - its developer and vendor, Scott T, posts on here and offers excellent after sales service (I speak from personal experience here). The chip is set at 1.1bar, so you won't see much more than that with those mods anyway. Could be a one step forward, one step back, move.
Your best bet is ESL Live daughterboard installed into your ECU and enjoy a pukka custom map, so therefore the boost can be upped (so long as your limiting-factor TMIC will allow it). You could get c.300bhp (but it's very much the exception on the OEM TMIC, rather than the rule).
Your best bet is ESL Live daughterboard installed into your ECU and enjoy a pukka custom map, so therefore the boost can be upped (so long as your limiting-factor TMIC will allow it). You could get c.300bhp (but it's very much the exception on the OEM TMIC, rather than the rule).
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Hmmm, hope to see a darn site more than 280bhp, mine has been rolling roaded at 287bhp with a TD05 16g, full decat and K&N induction kit, I would hope for 300+ with another 4psi and fuelling mods to match.
Not sure about the comments that the company dont know what they are doing? they say all the same words as polar performance, why trust them and not eclipse??? I was just wondering if anyone had used eclipse or knew of tem??
Thanks for your replies
Not sure about the comments that the company dont know what they are doing? they say all the same words as polar performance, why trust them and not eclipse??? I was just wondering if anyone had used eclipse or knew of tem??
Thanks for your replies
chip didn't work,cost me £50 to have it fitted and then unfitted and no refundBuyer: carlblackjack ( 120)
02-Jul-09 15:50
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How are you getting 287bhp as that is nearly 30 more than standard.
I do believe that most of the people selling them (with the exception of Polar Performance) have just got hold of the map and some chips and just put them on.
A few things to point out
They say some standard cars run 0.6 bar that is incorrect (0.8bar is the lowest iirc)
Mid 2006 the ecus changed to 3 pin that is incorrect (late 96/early 97 was the change) although that could be a typo.
And to be fair my94wrx at least they did reply the full feedback is
chip didn't work,cost me £50 to have it fitted and then unfitted and no refund Buyer: carlblackjack ( 120) 02-Jul-09 15:50
Reply by eclipse-performance (24-Nov-09 20:50):
His 'mate' fitted it back to front! They are ALL tested before they are sent out
Not sure if it matters if which way the chips are put in.
BUT as my94wrx does say it's upto you
I do believe that most of the people selling them (with the exception of Polar Performance) have just got hold of the map and some chips and just put them on.
A few things to point out
They say some standard cars run 0.6 bar that is incorrect (0.8bar is the lowest iirc)
Mid 2006 the ecus changed to 3 pin that is incorrect (late 96/early 97 was the change) although that could be a typo.
And to be fair my94wrx at least they did reply the full feedback is
chip didn't work,cost me £50 to have it fitted and then unfitted and no refund Buyer: carlblackjack ( 120) 02-Jul-09 15:50
Reply by eclipse-performance (24-Nov-09 20:50):
His 'mate' fitted it back to front! They are ALL tested before they are sent out
Not sure if it matters if which way the chips are put in.
BUT as my94wrx does say it's upto you
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Thanks again for the replies, I didnt mean to offend anyone but got just what i was asking for and that is peoples opinions, its one of those tricky situations, I know I won't get much more out of my scooby without starting to spend more money, just trying to get the best possible with what is there. I do have a V3 STi TMIC that I am going to fit when the weather is warmer so that would help the situation.
As for how am I getting 287bhp then I cant explain as I didnt own the car when the power run was done BUT i do have the RR printout and it definately says 287bhp thats why I was hoping that the chip mod + the STi TMIC will probably be the best I can hope for power wise from an early WRX.
As for how am I getting 287bhp then I cant explain as I didnt own the car when the power run was done BUT i do have the RR printout and it definately says 287bhp thats why I was hoping that the chip mod + the STi TMIC will probably be the best I can hope for power wise from an early WRX.
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I doubt you offended anyone BUT most people will suggest a remappable option to be better and with ebay sellers you never know where they get maps from or if they offer customer support,
Wasn't doubting you it's just that a 13 yo car producing MORE power than standard ,even with a decat and IK, is unusual.
Don't forget more power/torque will be putting more strain on the gearbox/clutch especially on an old car
Wasn't doubting you it's just that a 13 yo car producing MORE power than standard ,even with a decat and IK, is unusual.
Don't forget more power/torque will be putting more strain on the gearbox/clutch especially on an old car
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You are right and I know that a remappable option is better BUT my point is that fo 50 pounds or even 75 fitted this is probably the most cost effective mod now available for my car. Eventually I want more power (400+) but for that amount I will doubtless need a new engine and gearbox etc.
Until then brake and chassis mods will do in preparation for that day!!
Until then brake and chassis mods will do in preparation for that day!!
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Thanks again for the replies, I didnt mean to offend anyone but got just what i was asking for and that is peoples opinions, its one of those tricky situations, I know I won't get much more out of my scooby without starting to spend more money, just trying to get the best possible with what is there. I do have a V3 STi TMIC that I am going to fit when the weather is warmer so that would help the situation.
As for how am I getting 287bhp then I cant explain as I didnt own the car when the power run was done BUT i do have the RR printout and it definately says 287bhp thats why I was hoping that the chip mod + the STi TMIC will probably be the best I can hope for power wise from an early WRX.
As for how am I getting 287bhp then I cant explain as I didnt own the car when the power run was done BUT i do have the RR printout and it definately says 287bhp thats why I was hoping that the chip mod + the STi TMIC will probably be the best I can hope for power wise from an early WRX.
for the sake of it, you would be wise to have a look inside the ecu to see if there is a chip/daughter board already fitted this may explain the bhp figure.
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Assuming he hasn't got a aftermarket chip, or indeed a mappable ECU in there, then he's 'done well' in gaining c.27bhp on an unmapped decat/IK, etc.
I find it hard to believe though, if it's running std 0.8/0.9bar boost!?!?...
I hope his AFRs and ACTs are okay....
I find it hard to believe though, if it's running std 0.8/0.9bar boost!?!?...
I hope his AFRs and ACTs are okay....
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I'll check the ECU when it stops raining (should have checked it first I guess) but as it is only showing 11psi on the boost gauge - I had to turn the boost up by shortening the actuator rod (moved from 10 to 11) - I made the assumption that its not chipped.
A friend of mine has a similar age car and again no chip but full decat and IK and that was producing 290.3 bhp!! again it had proof of that figure.
A friend of mine has a similar age car and again no chip but full decat and IK and that was producing 290.3 bhp!! again it had proof of that figure.
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Yeah, c.11-12psi is the correct boost target for your car, so that seems spot on.
Strange... I'm just worried for your engine's health tht's all. Some people say an unmapped decat/IK is okay; other's don't. I personally would at least get your AFRs checked on a dyno...
Strange... I'm just worried for your engine's health tht's all. Some people say an unmapped decat/IK is okay; other's don't. I personally would at least get your AFRs checked on a dyno...
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