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Old 07 February 2010, 04:02 PM
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I have just fitted a boost gauge on my 1997 turbo 2000 never had one before, how do I read it properly? I have just took it round the block and it went up to 0.6 bar does this sound right
Old 07 February 2010, 04:11 PM
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Yeah think that's standard boost pressure matey
Old 07 February 2010, 04:21 PM
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Cheers Lockie
Old 07 February 2010, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by my_first_scooby
Cheers Lockie
0.6 bar sounds low to me........................0.9 IIRC???? Assume you reached max boost?

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Old 07 February 2010, 04:58 PM
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0.9 standard? thats abit high is it not i also thought it was 0.6
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LOL......there were lots of Q marks by my comment. But 0.6 def sounds low to me
Old 07 February 2010, 05:25 PM
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mine is a 97 uk and its runs 0.9 as standard.something wrong if only boosting to 0.6???
Old 07 February 2010, 05:48 PM
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How hard has the OP driven it if he's only been round the block?
Also, it's hard to see peaks unless your gauge can record them, best not to stare at it looking for them either
Old 07 February 2010, 05:49 PM
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No i'm pretty sure 0.6 bar is the norm but i will stand corrected
Old 07 February 2010, 05:59 PM
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have just checked and the boost levels are UK Classic (Turbo 2000) 0.9 Bar std pressure
JDM WRX or WRX Sti 1.1 Bar std pressure.
so running 0.6 means either something wrong(check if any codes come up) or your not putting your foot right down(you big jessie)HA HA
Old 07 February 2010, 06:00 PM
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How funny is this boost-based 'tennis match' thread?!

FTR, early 240PS (237bhp) WRX's run 0.79 bar and I always thought that UK cars were 0.1 bar less at 0.7bar??? After all, a 1997 "ph.1.5" UK is still only 208bhp... just like the MY94-96 "ph.1" UK ones!

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Old 07 February 2010, 06:14 PM
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funny mine runs 0.9bar(checked on a.jefferies r/r)is standard ecu wise with no bleed valves etc..
with my other bits up to 260.1 bhp now from 208 when i got it.
there was a thread on here not long ago stating how much psi each type of scooby runs standard and what the fuel cut off was.

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Old 07 February 2010, 06:33 PM
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Bet OP is totally confused now LOL!! Still can't believe 0.6 bar is standard for these . Needs a JGM, or similar, to comment.

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Old 07 February 2010, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dnc
Bet OP is totally confused now LOL!! Still can't believe 0.6 bar is standard for these . Needs a JGM, or similar, to comment.

dnc
Yes well confused!


Originally Posted by alcazar
How hard has the OP driven it if he's only been round the block?
Also, it's hard to see peaks unless your gauge can record them, best not to stare at it looking for them either
Not too hard really gonna give it some stick tomorrow on the M42
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Originally Posted by rifleman
have just checked and the boost levels are UK Classic (Turbo 2000) 0.9 Bar std pressure
JDM WRX or WRX Sti 1.1 Bar std pressure.
so running 0.6 means either something wrong(check if any codes come up) or your not putting your foot right down(you big jessie)HA HA

Big jessie.

I have had a lot of problems with it lately, changed the maff put a standard airbox back on, cleaned idle valve and boost solenoid. (after advice from yourself) checked boost hoses.
After all that i'm being cheated out my boost
Old 07 February 2010, 11:08 PM
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Yeah get a clear stretch of motorway and let the beast rip lol. You'll soon get an idea of where the boost is. Be aware that in this cooler weather yuo could get more boost occaissionaly as the ECU sees nice cold dense air and so long as it's getting no anomonlies coming into it via all the sensors, then it could momentarily give you a bit more BCS duty for a brief period.

Do a few runs (if you have enough room, etc) and you should get a good mean or average reading....
Old 07 February 2010, 11:16 PM
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cheers Joz it is probably just me misreading it and not getting enough speed I will give it some tomorrow and report back lol
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Thing is how much resolution has your gauge got?

If it's a 52mm rather than a 60mm one and has BAR unit's instead of PSI then the spacing between/amount of each marking will be that much smaller/less. Factor in a 'fat' needle too and a generally cheap, inaccurate gauge, and it could easily indicate 0.6bar, when perhaps it should indicate 0.7 or more, IYSWIM...
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My gauge is a 52mm with a 1.5 bar gauge, skinny needle though.

I gave it a bit on the motorway and it went no higher than 0.6 bar to be fair keeping it there was a bit of a struggle it averaged half way between 0.5 - 0.6 bar

I am starting to think I may have a problem would my decat affect the boost? what should I be checking/replacing?
Old 08 February 2010, 09:49 AM
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I was talking to my next door neighbour and he was on about adjusting the actuator arm, not sure if I should
Old 08 February 2010, 11:07 AM
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dont touch it.have you done a check to see if any fault codes are coming up?
Old 08 February 2010, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rifleman
dont touch it.have you done a check to see if any fault codes are coming up?
Hi Mate, the ECU is clear of any fault codes.

I wasn't planning on messing with the arm based on the neighbours car especially given the state of his car,
Old 08 February 2010, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by my_first_scooby
Not too hard really gonna give it some stick tomorrow on the M42
And tomorrow's post from my_first_scooby?

How accurate are the speedos on Scoobs and can the SPECS on the M42 catch you?

LOL
Old 08 February 2010, 11:42 AM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...uestion-2.html

Read from page 2 in this link. It may help you.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
And tomorrow's post from my_first_scooby?

How accurate are the speedos on Scoobs and can the SPECS on the M42 catch you?

LOL
LOL actually you have a good point, How accurate are the speedos on Scoobs and can the SPECS on the M42 catch you?

Only joking answers not required to that
Originally Posted by dan83590
https://www.scoobynet.com/general-te...uestion-2.html

Read from page 2 in this link. It may help you.
Reading through your link deffo a job for the weekend anything is worth a go
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You need to be in 4th gear to check your boost on a five speed box.
Start around 1700 rpm and foot to the floor in 4th.
With your car you need to run past 5,500 rpm.
What max boost did you see and at what revs and what had it dropped to by say 6k rpm.
Subject to what you come back with, lots of scope for improvements without a lot of expenditure.
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Thing is how much resolution has your gauge got?

If it's a 52mm rather than a 60mm one and has BAR unit's instead of PSI then the spacing between/amount of each marking will be that much smaller/less. Factor in a 'fat' needle too and a generally cheap, inaccurate gauge, and it could easily indicate 0.6bar, when perhaps it should indicate 0.7 or more, IYSWIM...

Dont forget to factor in Parallax error!
Old 10 February 2010, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by harvey
You need to be in 4th gear to check your boost on a five speed box.
Start around 1700 rpm and foot to the floor in 4th.
With your car you need to run past 5,500 rpm.
What max boost did you see and at what revs and what had it dropped to by say 6k rpm.
Subject to what you come back with, lots of scope for improvements without a lot of expenditure.
Cheers Harvey I will give that a try this morning

Originally Posted by Myles
Dont forget to factor in Parallax error!
WTF is parallax error Myles, surely you have just made that up lol

PS if anyone sees me this morning I'm not speeding I'm boost testing lol
Old 10 February 2010, 12:24 PM
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"Parallax error" is caused when not viewing something from dead in front. It can cause the needles on gauges to under-, or over-read.

It is more prevalent when the needle is a greater distance off the gauge face. A gauge whose needle TOUCHED the face, ie: lay on it, would exhibit no parallax error.

To experience parallax for yourself, set up two pencils, for example, so as when you view them, one is behind the other. A distance of abour 5cm between them will do.
Now, wiothout moving the pencils, simply move your head to one side, or the other. See how the pencils now appear to separate? That's parallax error.
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before you blame it on parallax error make sure you have checked the flux capacitor


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