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Old 07 February 2010, 08:39 PM
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I have a 96 turbo 2000 import, if I was to get a second hand turbo. One that spools faster, which should I get? and is it just as simple as swapping it over? or does it need a remap?


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Old 07 February 2010, 08:42 PM
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Is yours a MY96 with a top-entry TD05H 16g fitted... or a MY97 with a front entry VF24 (I think) fitted.

If you get the correct top entry or front entry replacement, they just swap over, but you defo need a remap. You will invariably have to upgrade your injectors too...
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Is yours a MY96 with a top-entry TD05H 16g fitted... or a MY97 with a front entry VF24 (I think) fitted.

If you get the correct top entry or front entry replacement, they just swap over, but you defo need a remap. You will invariably have to upgrade your injectors too...

Now your asking a question! haha

Ive only recently got the car and im new to all this lol. How can I tell which is which? id like to know what turbo it is anyway. What size injectors? and if I did swap it over would it need the remap done asap or would it be ok for a few weeks? until I sorted cash out.

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Old 07 February 2010, 08:58 PM
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The tdo5 for the T2000 was changed to a td04 whenever the year of change was. td04 is a fast (fastest common???) spooling turbo, tho lacks top end power. TBH not sure what you have i.e. what year it changed. The turbo model should be stamped on the turbo so you coud read it. If you change turbo you will need to get it mapped at the same time.

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Thing is what is it you're not happy with? The TD05H is a fine turbo with decent spool and 340bhp potential for mapping later on.

And the VF24 is even more spritely the the 05 (I think), with a 320 (I think) mapped potential.

If yuo wan th the mother of all low-spooling tubs, the Andy forrest's TD04 Hybrid is pretty much the fastest one, but because of that, it tops out at 290-310 potential.

Horses for courses....
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Ahh cheers! if it is the td04 then you think I should leave it on? im after around 300-350bhp. What upgrades should I be thinking about doing?. Its pretty much standard, it said on the advert when buying that its been remapped...How would I be able to tell if it has?


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Originally Posted by dnc
The tdo5 for the T2000 was changed to a td04 whenever the year of change was. td04 is a fast (fastest common???) spooling turbo, tho lacks top end power. TBH not sure what you have i.e. what year it changed. The turbo model should be stamped on the turbo so you coud read it. If you change turbo you will need to get it mapped at the same time.

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Oops sorry yes... TD04 FE for UK 2000 MY97-00 (what was i thinking

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Originally Posted by mc-eksman
Ahh cheers! if it is the td04 then you think I should leave it on?...
You're unlikely to get 300 out of your TD04 (IF you have a MY97) - 280 is the typical figure....

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So it wouldnt be the td04? as mines a 96.
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Originally Posted by mc-eksman
Ahh cheers! if it is the td04 then you think I should leave it on? im after around 300-350bhp...
You're unlikely to get 300 out of your TD04 (IF you have a MY97) - 280 is the typical figure....
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As mines a 96 it should have the td05? if so can I then reach 300bhp+ or will it still need replacing?


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Originally Posted by mc-eksman
So it wouldnt be the td04? as mines a 96.

MY96 = Sep 95-Aug 96 = TD05 top entry

MY97 = Sep 96-Aug 97 = TD04 front entry

See?

Sould be stamped on the bottom of the silver coloured compressor cover

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Old 07 February 2010, 09:19 PM
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DVLa check Date of First Registration
28 09 1996


so its the td04....


Il check anywayz! what turbo should I be looking for if it is a td04? as stated I want around 300-350bhp


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A direct fit would be a VF35. Cheapish if you can find a decent one second hand and very decent spool and upto 350bhp - but typically 310-330. They're lively turbos.

There's been a few on eBay in the last month with 20k-50k miles on them. Go for around the £250 mark...
Old 07 February 2010, 09:29 PM
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If I was you I wouldnt buy a second hand turbo, save up and do it right, you might want to start looking at a new stage 1 exedy clutch at that power aswell because if yours starts slipping you will have to pay the mapper again to finish the job
Old 07 February 2010, 09:32 PM
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funny you should mention that woody as im having a exedy clutch fitted in around 2-3 weeks as mines slipping . Also having a 6kg lightened flywheel fitted. Il look into this vf35 turbo especially if there going on ebay for that!
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Originally Posted by mc-eksman
DVLa check Date of First Registration
28 09 1996


so its the td04....


Il check anywayz! what turbo should I be looking for if it is a td04? as stated I want around 300-350bhp


Lee
It's the date of manufacture that's the one to go by! It could have been sitting at the factory or showroom for days/weeks/ before someone bought it, and, therefore, at that point it would be reg'd!

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Im bidding on this at the minute

subaru impreza turbo STI, turbocharger IHI VF35 on eBay (end time 07-Feb-10 22:21:08 GMT)
Old 07 February 2010, 09:39 PM
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Also what do you mean Turbo 2000 import? A non-UK Euro/RoW one? (they're mechanically the same as the UK Turbo 2000, anyway).

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Woody you hypocryt! LOL
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you must have missed this

https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...o-sti-3-a.html
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Didnt realise they were the same! its a jap import. Il check the turbo sometime this week to see if it is the td05. Im now bidding on the same turbo mwahahaha!




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Oh dear.

So Woody I take it this is a hasty purchase to try to make a mapping date?
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Just hope it doesnt bite me in the ***
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mc-e, if it's a JDM import then it will be a "WRX" or "WRX STi" variant - not a "Turbo 2000" (UK moniker - and a 'lesser' car). It'll either have a TD05H 16g top entry if a MY96 or, if a MY97 then, I think, VF23 or 24 front entry...

Post up date of manufacture and your 7-digit Applied model code (if you can't see the turbo code on the comp cover)...

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Originally Posted by Woody69


Just hope it doesnt bite me in the ***
Well?....

subaru impreza turbo STI, turbocharger IHI VF35 on eBay (end time 07-Feb-10 22:21:08 GMT)

Old 08 February 2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
mc-e, if it's a JDM import then it will be a "WRX" or "WRX STi" variant - not a "Turbo 2000" (UK moniker - and a 'lesser' car). It'll either have a TD05H 16g top entry if a MY96 or, if a MY97 then, I think, VF23 or 24 front entry...

Post up date of manufacture and your 7-digit Applied model code (if you can't see the turbo code on the comp cover)...

Where can I find this info? also today it was idling real low when I parked up. Like it was nearly at stalling point didnt splutter just idled that low. Could it be something to do with my cluth slipping??


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Turbo code is on compressor cover at the bottom.

7-digit Applied model code is on metal VIN plate riveted to passenger side suspension turret.
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Il get the model code later on, baby duties atm haha.



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lol I 'know' all about that from stories of my mate and his recently acquired littl'un.

Don't appeal to me, I'm afraid....


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