rs scooby

hello people, im new to all this so bare with me,

i need help with my scooby my99 uk turbo, i want more power out of my car its completey stock and to be honest its just not fast enough,

but i dont want to break the bank either, so anyone know of any good mods i can do?

ive already done the de cats and air filter

thanks

zippy!

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bigger turbo bigger injectors and a re-map

rs scooby

ok apart from the re map? anyother ideaz? also what would that take my bhp up?

i bought a td05 turbo

dnc

Re-map after your de-cat should see 270-280 bhp (have you had it mapped already?). To go futher you will need a different turbo, injectors, prob uprated intercooler and re-map. What figure are you after and what is your budget?
dnc

seddomyster

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u will need remap if u fit that. best bet is sell up an get a jdm wrx or sti

dnc

Which td05 have you got?

rs scooby

nah i havnt had it mapped yet, all ive done is done both the de cats with a vortex back box and a k&n, a set of 17'' rays lightweight monoblocks,

i have bought a td05 but not fitted it yet

i was hoping to get around the 300bhp mark

joz8968

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Yeah but is it a used OEM MY93-96 16g.

Or a 18g or 20g.

Chinese ebay special or pukka harvey or AF item?

If fortunate, even a healthy 16g could see you mapped to 340bhp+ (with appropriate supp. mods)...

lomas the great

with a tdo5 16g, sti8 tmic or fmic,fpr,and a walbro 255 pump u should be set.
my99 cars have 440 injetors standard, i did all the above had it mapped and made 340bhp, but beware the gear box wont last at that power.

sonic-scooby

instead of a remap get a Z4 ecu u should pick 1 up 4 about 80 quid check ebay. with a Z4 and TD05 alone u will be lookin around 260bhp plus whatever mods u have now. it makes a big difference! good luck mate pm me let me no how it goes.

sc_sjo

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Is this ECU a straight swap into a MY99 UK car?

bigsinky

the question nobody is asking here is how much money have you got to spend. then we can give you a more informed answer.

joey_turbo

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No.

The 99 - 00 ECU's are the better ones for the classic, as they can be ECUtek mapped.

A Z4, don't quote me on the exact years, is pre 97 and not compatable. Its not even from a UK car. So that won't work.

sc_sjo

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This was the same impression I was under, I was just wondering if sonic-scooby knew something I didn't.

joz8968

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As said, the Z4 ECU (v.1 STi?) is a 4-plug MY93-96 "phase 1" job, and can only be used on MY93-96 cars...

sonic-scooby

yes i forgot it is pre 97 and its 4 plug so wont fit sorry about that but like bigsinky says how much are u willing to spend?

rs scooby

well i will spend what ever is needed i suppose but ideal the less i can spend is better

so id like say £500 but i suppose i could go to £1000

hope that helps guys

also i saw ecu on ebay a few weeks ago it was had been remapped to 270bhp with just a de cat and air filter, it was off a my99 uk turbo, was wondering would this fit on my car and how would i go about and what would i need?

cheers guys

bigsinky

I am sorry mate and i don't really want to **** on your parade but £1K ain't really gonna do much for you. you can save money by being able to do the work yourself, but if you can't then you have to factor mechanicing work in as well.

Your car is 10 years old, standard UK impreza, that was 212BHP out of the factory. Decat will make the car rev freer but will NOT add 70BHP, without extra fuelling and a remap. you stated you have a TD05-20G. is this an ebay item or bought from a reputable dealer. the chinese clones of ebay while cheap are not good at making power. to just bolt this on without other modifications will just ruin the drivability of your car.

My recommendation would be brakes and suspension. Subaru modification can be done on a shoestring but it takes a long time. the power upgrades you want are going to cost money as they are better done all in one go. eg FMIC, new turbo, bigger injectors, FPR, new programmable ECU, better plugs, remap by specialist.

Enjoy the car for what it is. I have said before many times, it's not the buying of the car that's the problem, the bitch is the upkeep.

rs scooby

well thats fair enough, but im simply looking for around the 300bhp, i didnt realise it would be so costly,

this is my 1st scooby and i dont know much about them (previous to this car ive only rs turbo's and a saff cosworth)

just abit confused now on what to do

sc_sjo

iTrader: (7)

Contact an Impreza tuner and discuss options within your budget.

joey_turbo

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I think its very do-able for under a grand, but as mentioned, if you do your own work.

You've got your turbo, so that needs fitting. All you really then need is to have it mapped. Your standard ECU can be mapped for around 500 quid.

rs scooby

im going to do the work myself, so just the turbo and map, will that tak me to 300 or 270? because everyone seems to have a diff view and im not sure myself?

joey_turbo

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A TD05-16g can go up to 320bhp, so I am led to believe. But 300 is most certainly in reach.
Thats what I'm doing, it's just taking me a while. I have my turbo, and once I've put it on, I'm going for the remap.

joz8968

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rs scooby, you still haven't told us what TD05 variant you have?

But even if it is a 16g, then you'll easily get over 300 (well, should do if you get it mapped by a reputable mapper).

Your MY99/00 TMIC will be the limiting item - prob to around 310-330bhp, or thereabouts.

rs scooby

cool, were you going for a remap?

joz8968

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Why you asking ME?

I take it you mean, "Where shall I get it remapped?"?

Jolly Green Monster will travel to you to ECUTek map it for you...

rs scooby

lol actually the question was for joey turbo sorry m8, but question 2 u wud hav been were shall i get it mapd frm ur rite lol

not to worry

joz8968- ye it standard, got a vortex back box, td05 turbo and a k&n
looking around for the de cat pipes, havnt fitted anything yet i wanted to just get everything i needed 1st then fit it all at once

(sorry to a previous post i said i had de cat, i havnt got them yet but i know i need them)

bigsinky

Boys, boys, boys.

If only it was that simple. just bolting on a turbo is not going to make the power, it will just make your car a laggy piece of **** to drive. you have to get the fuelling right, the air intake right, the timing right. rs scooby you didnt say where you got the 20G from. is it the right fitment for your car? are you confident you can fit the turbo and get the ancillaries right, the map sensor fitted. is your ecu remappable, if not then your going to need an ESL daughterboard for your ecu or a complete replacement ecu like ECUTEK. you then have to get someone competent to map your car for performance as well as safety or else you will end up with a big bill when your engine calves itself. remember this is a 10 year old car. tired internals, poor service history, previous owners all have an impact on the reliability of the car. you are asking an engine that was manufacured to produce 212hp to now produce 300hp, that is no mean feat.

i don't want to sound patronising here, but you need too understand how engines work and make power. there are so many variables here and one wrong move and your pride and joy is a piece of junk. seriously, speak to a business that specialises in subaru, independant tuners that have a genuine love of the car and are not out to stoke you at every turn. they will advise you on what to do to your car depending on your budget. and thats the big thing here. you can spend £40K on an all singing, all dancing, fire breathing monster if you want. the sky's the limit here. you have started from the most difficult position here, in that you have a classic shape car. you need to spend a helluva lot more money on them to make power. the new age cars are better setup and you can make the same amount of power for a lot less money . technology changes and gets better but the new age cars are just so much better for this sort of thing.

rs scooby

bigsinky- i didnt know that about classic

i knw it a 10year old car but its well documented, full history,1 owner (im the 2nd) never damaged or moded, very clean, it took to 2 year to find a classic shape which had not be shaged just like ur saying,

but i fully understand what your point of view and it very good advice thanks m8 will have a think about it

joey_turbo

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I'll be going JGm when the turbo is on.

Bigsinky, I understand what you are saying. All engines are and can react differently.
But 300+bhp on a classic with TD05, decat and remap, had been done many times before and is not exactly a huge benchmark anymore.

I see in your profile you are making 11 second quarter miles. So you are in the 450+bhp league, which is a whole new kettle of fish and doesn't really apply as much here where the making of 300bhp is concerned. Don't mean that in a negative way at all.