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Old 19 May 2010, 01:10 PM
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Is getting your Subaru remapped as reliable as it would be in standard form!!?? The mods would be an Ecutek remap with full decat, uprated fuel pump, green panel filter? How does a remapped one affect engine longetivity? Surely with the extra boost and fueling its bound to shorten engine life.

In terms of the hawkeyes were the torque goes thru the roof this has to massively reduce turbo, gearbox, clutch and driveshaft life etc

Any opinions?

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Without wishing to offend the question is flawed. So many variables, from the environment to which the car is driven to the modifications that support the mapping it's pure speculation at best. The answer is yes and no
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Okay sorry reworded it a bit
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It all depends who maps it. Extra power is always going to put a little extra strain on componenents but if you use a decent mapper such as Paul Blamire from Zen Performance who doesn't just chase crazy figures then there is no reason why reliability would be effected. In fact it could be argued that a perfectly tuned bespoke map would actually be safer than the generally over rich generic map that the car comes from the factory with.
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Who writes the base maps for say an ECUtek map?? Surely it would not have the same testing that the Subaru ones would have!! I am sure the Subaru ones had thousands of hours testing (Apart from the new hatch)
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You can't re-map a WRX to STI power levels and moan that the gearbox is noisy...

That's obvious.

There are two people I know are past this, and a new thread appeared on here today...

As for reliability, yes it will run fine and last almost as long as a std. motor.

It's hard driving and trackdays that have made mine tired at 50,000 miles.

All IMHO

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Originally Posted by scooby1929
Who writes the base maps for say an ECUtek map?? Surely it would not have the same testing that the Subaru ones would have!! I am sure the Subaru ones had thousands of hours testing (Apart from the new hatch)
The map is written by whomever you choose to map your car.
Old 19 May 2010, 11:17 PM
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The car as it leaves the factory has a lot of safety built into the ECU as it has to run in rude health in many conditions from Iceland to Dubai

Remapping simply errodes the safety margin.........to a point at which you and your mapper decides LOL

There was a very pertinant article written a good few years ago about mapping cars away from the factory OEM map by John Banks in True Grip magazine.........

It still applies today

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Remapping simply errodes the safety margin...
...for the benefit of extra power/torque/off-boost frugality/drivability throughout the rev range.

Otherwise, that reads as if it's a negative-ONLY thing to do!
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I would say getting a remap by a decent mapper (Andy F) your car will be just as safe if not safer than it was when it left the factory.
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Joz8968..

Have you read John Bank's stuff on here ? a bit old hat but still relevant about how the Subaru impreza left the factory ? and how mapping can improve it

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No I haven't - but yeah the OEM map has lots of headroom re timing and fuelling I understand.

So lots of room for ign adv and/or leaning out for more power/torque. As you say, the cororally being that the 'safety margin' will have been closed right up. But hey, that's what "performance mapping" does...
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It doesnt necessarily close up the safety margins it moves them so that the car's operating environment is now in the middle of a new safety zonein terms of ecu control of engine safety. So in that respect it should be safer

There is no real reason for things to start failing just because of a remap but drivetrain will get more of a hard time. Depending on what year/model there is a vast amount of overengineering that is built into components and so long as you drive with consideration to the car all should be well.

Just my 2p's worth.
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It doesnt necessarily close up the safety margins it moves them so that the car's operating environment is now in the middle of a new safety zonein terms of ecu control of engine safety. So in that respect it should be safer

There is no real reason for things to start failing just because of a remap but drivetrain will get more of a hard time. Depending on what year/model there is a vast amount of overengineering that is built into components and so long as you drive with consideration to the car all should be well.

Just my 2p's worth.
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