Problems Fitting Perrin 25mm ARB.. have i fitted it correctly?
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Problems Fitting Perrin 25mm ARB.. have i fitted it correctly?
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ok set about fitting this perrin 25mm anti roll bar i had as everyone mentions how much of a different rear ARBs at 22/24mm make.
anyway after i got the old anti roll bar off i put the new one on.. and found both sides wouldnt go on the inside.. as the standard one was..
i got one on the inside and one on the outside.. which cant be right..
pics..
so after looking at it, i found it was my error with positioning stout mounts..
anyway got them both on the inside and found it a really tight fit!
here some pics of them in position..
now i tightened everything up after doing this.. and looked at the ARB.. and noticed how close it wa son the passenger side .. the droplink and arb were practically touching.. and on the drivers side.. over ahard bump i'm sure that would rub a bit too..
so my question is.. have i fitted this ARB correctly? here are some other pics.. showing how close it is..
is that perfectly normal?
lastly, if that is normal and it's fitted fine.. well.. i have taken it for a blast and tbh dont really notice much difference other than a bit sharper steering and better turning around a roundabout..
maybe i'm not trying hard enough as its wet out there.. but people say 22mm bars transform the car.. 24mm if your a smooth driver.. i was thinking 25mm might be a bit tail happy and dangerous and tbh its perfectly fine with my front standard ARB.
after todays drive.. i'm actually glad i didnt go 22mm as i dont think i'd have noticed a difference if i can only see a little difference now..
or maybe it's just too early to tell..
anyways back to the important point.. have i fitted it right or ballsd it up?
Cheers
Eddy
ok set about fitting this perrin 25mm anti roll bar i had as everyone mentions how much of a different rear ARBs at 22/24mm make.
anyway after i got the old anti roll bar off i put the new one on.. and found both sides wouldnt go on the inside.. as the standard one was..
i got one on the inside and one on the outside.. which cant be right..
pics..
so after looking at it, i found it was my error with positioning stout mounts..
anyway got them both on the inside and found it a really tight fit!
here some pics of them in position..
now i tightened everything up after doing this.. and looked at the ARB.. and noticed how close it wa son the passenger side .. the droplink and arb were practically touching.. and on the drivers side.. over ahard bump i'm sure that would rub a bit too..
so my question is.. have i fitted this ARB correctly? here are some other pics.. showing how close it is..
is that perfectly normal?
lastly, if that is normal and it's fitted fine.. well.. i have taken it for a blast and tbh dont really notice much difference other than a bit sharper steering and better turning around a roundabout..
maybe i'm not trying hard enough as its wet out there.. but people say 22mm bars transform the car.. 24mm if your a smooth driver.. i was thinking 25mm might be a bit tail happy and dangerous and tbh its perfectly fine with my front standard ARB.
after todays drive.. i'm actually glad i didnt go 22mm as i dont think i'd have noticed a difference if i can only see a little difference now..
or maybe it's just too early to tell..
anyways back to the important point.. have i fitted it right or ballsd it up?
Cheers
Eddy
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it was second hand yes off another member and i dont know the perrin part number i'm afraid. but they only do one 25mm bar with stout mounts.. the whiteline droplinks were my own.
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where would it have the part number? i was told by the seller on here it would fit any impreza with the c shape droplinks.. i hope its not the wrong one im pretty sure it dint have any part number on the bar unless it rubbed off..
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i will drop dave a pm, i cant remmeber who he said, but it was in a pm that he mentioned that..hence me chekcing if i had c shaped droplinks before buying.
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Is it this one, listed as a 22mm ? also Arch had a load of SpecD bits which if from the same car/source could mean it's the later bar
Is it this one, listed as a 22mm ? also Arch had a load of SpecD bits which if from the same car/source could mean it's the later bar
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i have no idea who dave y bought it off, but it does look to be the case that it was off arch which means it is the later bar.. will it have negative effects being on mine for a week or 2? before i get a chance to get to a ramp and take it off..
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lol i wish i was that quick.. the one stout mount/nut on the drivers side.. had a fuel pipe/neck in the way.. took me ages to get that one off lol, it'll have to be weekend now.
thanks for your help mate
thanks for your help mate
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lol the stout mounts was the hardest bit,so i may just leave them on and put the standard bar on it, should take 5 mins this way, hope the perrin stout mount isnt too big for it
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Let me clear a few things up here,i didnt assume anything i rang Tsl who sell them.They told me if the car has C shaped droplinks the bar would fit.The brand new one i bought off Arch has yet to be fitted i may have the same problem.I cant remember who i bought them off he said he had used them on his racecar and they would fit my blobeye.
I never said it was brand new and its 25 mm not 22mm.I bought a pair off a chap on here who raced a Subaru,i have fitted the front to my blobeye no problem.Believe it or not, probably not i cant remember the blokes name.As soon as i read the pm Eggy had sent me i said he could have his money back.Why i have to explain my actions on here is beyond me i havent tried to con anyone,i bought the pair of bars in good faith after being told they would fit my car.Eggy give me your paypal account and you can have your money back and post the bar back to me.
I never said it was brand new and its 25 mm not 22mm.I bought a pair off a chap on here who raced a Subaru,i have fitted the front to my blobeye no problem.Believe it or not, probably not i cant remember the blokes name.As soon as i read the pm Eggy had sent me i said he could have his money back.Why i have to explain my actions on here is beyond me i havent tried to con anyone,i bought the pair of bars in good faith after being told they would fit my car.Eggy give me your paypal account and you can have your money back and post the bar back to me.
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Pretty sure that I have read somewhere that Perrin bars need to be fitted with Perrin Endlinks to fit properly. I have them on my Hawkeye, great quality bit of kit.
Hope this helps.
Hope this helps.
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Let me clear a few things up here,i didnt assume anything i rang Tsl who sell them.They told me if the car has C shaped droplinks the bar would fit.The brand new one i bought off Arch has yet to be fitted i may have the same problem.I cant remember who i bought them off he said he had used them on his racecar and they would fit my blobeye.
I never said it was brand new and its 25 mm not 22mm.I bought a pair off a chap on here who raced a Subaru,i have fitted the front to my blobeye no problem.Believe it or not, probably not i cant remember the blokes name.As soon as i read the pm Eggy had sent me i said he could have his money back.Why i have to explain my actions on here is beyond me i havent tried to con anyone,i bought the pair of bars in good faith after being told they would fit my car.Eggy give me your paypal account and you can have your money back and post the bar back to me.
I never said it was brand new and its 25 mm not 22mm.I bought a pair off a chap on here who raced a Subaru,i have fitted the front to my blobeye no problem.Believe it or not, probably not i cant remember the blokes name.As soon as i read the pm Eggy had sent me i said he could have his money back.Why i have to explain my actions on here is beyond me i havent tried to con anyone,i bought the pair of bars in good faith after being told they would fit my car.Eggy give me your paypal account and you can have your money back and post the bar back to me.
and guys i didnt mean to say anything bad about Dave or anything like that as he has been more than helpful. my apologies if it came out like that.
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Lol yes TSL, blame it on the drop links
The quality control on the Perrin bars isn't great and the first line of defence is usually a drop link one.
Dave no-one suggested anything remotely close to you being a con artist
I am sure the bar will fit the right car, sounds like you were given a lack/duff information about Perrin also. TSL were about as helpful as a chocolate fireguard when I fitted mine. Hence why I know what I know as I set about researching properly.
The quality control on the Perrin bars isn't great and the first line of defence is usually a drop link one.
Dave no-one suggested anything remotely close to you being a con artist
I am sure the bar will fit the right car, sounds like you were given a lack/duff information about Perrin also. TSL were about as helpful as a chocolate fireguard when I fitted mine. Hence why I know what I know as I set about researching properly.
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dave: bar is off, i will send you a pm in a second.
53wrx: lol i'm running no anti roll bar on the rear now as i couldnt get the stout mounts off on my back.. so cound'nt fit the standard bar back on.. going to be buying a new rear arb in the next few days..
do you know if a whiteline 24mm rear arb will fit the perrin stout mounts fine? i'm sure they'll fit my droplinks, just want to make sure before i buy a new one.. or are these whiteline bars designed for the standard mounts?
if thats the case i'll need to buy a new perrin one..
53wrx: lol i'm running no anti roll bar on the rear now as i couldnt get the stout mounts off on my back.. so cound'nt fit the standard bar back on.. going to be buying a new rear arb in the next few days..
do you know if a whiteline 24mm rear arb will fit the perrin stout mounts fine? i'm sure they'll fit my droplinks, just want to make sure before i buy a new one.. or are these whiteline bars designed for the standard mounts?
if thats the case i'll need to buy a new perrin one..
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also 53 since you have experience with these, would you defo recommend the 25mm arb over a whiteline 24mm one then?
and if i order a new perrin bar, you said it was .. PSP-SUS-204 i needed wasnt it? i dont want aproblem witht he droplinks so thinking 24mm whiteline one to be safe.
and if i order a new perrin bar, you said it was .. PSP-SUS-204 i needed wasnt it? i dont want aproblem witht he droplinks so thinking 24mm whiteline one to be safe.
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also just looking at the whiteline bar on here..
http://www.scoobyparts.com/acatalog/..._NEW_AGE_.html
they seem to be so many different models between versions :s
the one i need is BSR33XZ? is that correct?
i thought the blobeye ones were the same but they have a different model number for blobeye one.
http://www.scoobyparts.com/acatalog/..._NEW_AGE_.html
they seem to be so many different models between versions :s
the one i need is BSR33XZ? is that correct?
i thought the blobeye ones were the same but they have a different model number for blobeye one.
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I sold Dave a 22mm rear bar not a 25mm. The spec D bits I had were all engine parts from an engine and gearbox I bought as a job lot, I kept the box and sold all the ngine parts that came with it.. That certainly looks like it is for the later wide track STI's as the fitment is not correct. The bar i had I trial fitted on my 55 plate WRX without issues. Hope this helps.
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If the bars don't have numbers how could TSL confirm that they fit Research by going to the Perrin website would have told you there are different fittings for different bars for different years, much the same as Whiteline But hey ho **** happens, I hope yours fits
Eggy mate, If you go with the Whiteline, get a price from Tim at Scoobyparts or Dave Featherstone at Demon Tweeks. Both will give you a great unpublished price if you ask nicely
Get the 24mm BSR33XZ bar, the difference in part number for the bug/blob is bush related rather than bar related. This issue goes away if you go for the heavy duty mounts as you get new bushes with the right contours to fit the bigger mounts.
Are you keeping the Stouts ? if so just get the right Perrin Bar...
If you go for the Perrin, the Kit PSP-SUS-203 or the bar on it's own PSP-SUS-204.
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cheers 53, i need just the bar on its own as i have the stout mounts now which i ordered extra.
so i'll ring tsl and see what they can sort out the PSP-SUS-204 bar for
cheers
so i'll ring tsl and see what they can sort out the PSP-SUS-204 bar for
cheers