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Old 07 January 2011 | 08:02 AM
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Hey guys
Just been to fill my car up with V Power and my local Shell had been changed into a Total. Was speaking to the guy behind the counter and all 3 in my area have changed as well! This now means my closest one is about 20 miles away!

What can i run my car on now?! There is a Q8 and a BP nearby but I've heard scoobys don't like anything but Vpower!
Old 07 January 2011 | 08:28 AM
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depends what scoob you run but some people use tesco 99 petrol as it is supposed to be very close to v power i am sure there will be other replies about this only advice i can give is while you are getting the information together if you use total or anything else either dont drive above 3000 rpm or use an octane booster additive short term just to protect your engine from any nasty surprises

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Old 07 January 2011 | 08:30 AM
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What car do you have? Mods, model year etc?

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Old 07 January 2011 | 08:30 AM
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mine was mapped for v-power but had no issues switching to tesco 99
Old 07 January 2011 | 08:35 AM
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Total Excellium is the best of the rest
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Ive used tesco before and it felt fine. But same problem garage is miles away!

Car is a 1996 V2 import STi. It Has a fully forged engine, HKS induction kit and a revolution exhaust. Its running approx 300bhp. The ECU has a Jap chip (Prova) in it which i believe has very advanced ignition timings.

What octane booster do people recommend?
Old 07 January 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Dont bother with octane booster, it's been proven to be as helpful as pissing against the wind.
Jap maps are notoriously aggressive, so as long as you put the highest RON fuel available in (99) then you should be fine.
Old 07 January 2011 | 10:10 AM
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I have been trying tesco 99 I'm on the 3rd tank and it seems to run nice i have also gained a few extra miles each tank although I do have to drive 13 miles to get it .
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Octane booster does help (having owned 3 JDM STI's I can say this, especially if monitored ) so Tesco 99 and millers octane plus would be good, I would suggest a KS3 to monitor any det that may be going on also, see what they do here>>> www.phormula.co.uk

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Originally Posted by dynamix
Total Excellium is the best of the rest
Nice one Duncan, didn't realize it was 97, and it's cheaper than Esso Supreme.

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Dont bother with octane booster, it's been proven to be as helpful as pissing against the wind.
Can you back this statement up with some hard evidence please?
As you can see by my above post, i some times need to use lower RON and add NF OB to make up the difference. So would be interested to read.

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Old 07 January 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Always use Tesco 99 with the odd tank of Vpower - no issues in my JDM Bug
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always had my cars mapped for total excellium as it's the nearest station for me bob rawle says it's the best 97ron fuel as well
Old 07 January 2011 | 11:32 AM
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'Cos I get it cheap, I always use an Octane Booster in V-Power, and have a KS3 monitor.

The cheap stuff with OB is as good as raw V-Power according to the knock levels.

HTH

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Originally Posted by dunx
'Cos I get it cheap, I always use an Octane Booster in V-Power, and have a KS3 monitor.

The cheap stuff with OB is as good as raw V-Power according to the knock levels.

HTH

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Originally Posted by b13bat
Can you back this statement up with some hard evidence please?
As you can see by my above post, i some times need to use lower RON and add NF OB to make up the difference. So would be interested to read.

Yeah if I must, but bear one thing in mind, opinions are like ********, everyone's got one. I just prefer to 'evidence' over 'my mate Dave'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcC...layer_embedded
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there u go b13bat there your hard evidence tested in a rover k series engine LMAF
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Methanol

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Originally Posted by pooeater
there u go b13bat there your hard evidence tested in a rover k series engine LMAF

LMAF?


Take it how you want. I personally dont care as I dont use it.. I dont need to. I cant see how the engine used in the test matters though,bearing in mind the principles of the internal combustion engine are the same, care to explain your point?
Old 07 January 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dynamix
Methanol

QUITE.

Shame it's not available at your local Halfrauds/motor factors
Old 07 January 2011 | 01:50 PM
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No, but you can get it delivered easily enough
Old 07 January 2011 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TinyTim
Yeah if I must, but bear one thing in mind, opinions are like ********, everyone's got one. I just prefer to 'evidence' over 'my mate Dave'...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jbcC...layer_embedded
I'm sorry TinyTim, you must of misread my post. I asked for 'hard' evidence to back up your claims of pissing in the wind. I do not consider a scripted bint and a totally irrelevant engine 'power' test as, 'hard evidence'. But if that's your world and you believe FG shoit to be fact...
It actually proved nothing, as they tested neither the octane or knock levels.

Have a read of this test.
You will note the tests are carried out on the proper test equipment (not a k series rover) by people who know what they are talking about (not vbh).
A little more in depth and evidential i think you will agree.
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On that vid you see at .28 secs in the one important point on the packaging, "reduces pinking" or for the rest of us, det

Im with b13bat, that test is useless, running on an engine that was designed to run 95 ron with a map for 95 ron fuel, if you ever read a ford owners manual for example it will clearly state that the car can run on 95 ron and if you want 97 ron but you may not gain any performance.

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KS3 does not lie...

LOL

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P.S. Try running 2 bar of boost on V-Power, and then tell me a Rover is a fair test LOL
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If you cannot get Shell V-Power or Tesco 99 and your car needs that fuel and it sounds like yours does Wayne, then I suggest you run on a quality 97 Super, as suggested by Duncan and add 2mls/litre VF (Nitrous Formula)
This is not snake juice as many octane boosters are but a tried and tested product. Those of us that use it and map cars can see the additional ignition advance available when using NF compared to straight V-Power.
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Originally Posted by harvey
If you cannot get Shell V-Power or Tesco 99 and your car needs that fuel and it sounds like yours does Wayne, then I suggest you run on a quality 97 Super, as suggested by Duncan and add 2mls/litre VF (Nitrous Formula)
This is not snake juice as many octane boosters are but a tried and tested product. Those of us that use it and map cars can see the additional ignition advance available when using NF compared to straight V-Power.
No more questions ma' lud.
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Originally Posted by TinyTim
LMAF?


Take it how you want. I personally dont care as I dont use it.. I dont need to. I cant see how the engine used in the test matters though,bearing in mind the principles of the internal combustion engine are the same, care to explain your point?
Turbocharged engines respond more positively than NA engines to higher octane fuels. Rover engine in the FG test, (from 2007 or before) was not turbocharged, hence the FG test is relevant to Rover engine but not a turbocharged Impreza engine.

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No more questions ma' lud.


Exactly. Too much crap on this board. Just tell it how it is.
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Where's the best place to get the Nitrous formula OB please?
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Cheers for all the info guys. I don't want the hassle (or cost) of getting the car mapped for Total Excellium so think ill be going down the octane booster route. From reading the website b3bat put up NF Octane Booster is the best. Where is the best place to get this from?
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Always get mine from here.

You may be able to get it locally though. But not me in my dead end town.
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