Notices
General Technical
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Engine blocks

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 22 August 2011 | 08:25 PM
  #1  
wr pete's Avatar
wr pete
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default Engine blocks

Hi can anyone tell me the differences between 2.0 ej cylinder blocks for normally aspirated and turbo, wrx and Sti ? Is it possible to build a forged turbo motor starting with any block as long as the crank rods and pistons and the rest of the engine are for a turbo motor ? The reason I ask this is because I have a very good condition 2.0 N/a block which I was thinking of using to build a forged turbo motor therefore saving me the aggro of having my car off the road for longer than needed. It would be great if I could build up the bottom end before I take my engine out. Any info would be great thanks
Pete.
Old 22 August 2011 | 10:33 PM
  #2  
pete@s/e imprezas's Avatar
pete@s/e imprezas
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (47)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 958
Likes: 0
From: grove oxfordshire
Default

you will need a turbo block too start with the cylinder liners are alot thicker than the n/a blocks.
Old 23 August 2011 | 12:31 AM
  #3  
wr pete's Avatar
wr pete
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

Oh ok thanks for that Pete, didn't think about cylinder wall thickness, the bore and stroke are the same so I just thought there was a chance the blocks were all the same.
Old 23 August 2011 | 06:11 AM
  #4  
saiklon's Avatar
saiklon
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 455
Likes: 0
From: Uganda
Default

Originally Posted by pete@s/e imprezas
you will need a turbo block too start with the cylinder liners are alot thicker than the n/a blocks.
Are you sure about this? Please share your source of information. Did you tear down and compare the two engines or do you have some documentation from Subaru showing this difference?

I have always known that the turbo and N/A blocks are exactly the same (except for the N/A blocks possibly being open deck even if the corresponding turbo block was closed deck).
Old 23 August 2011 | 06:39 AM
  #5  
boosted's Avatar
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1
From: harlow
Default

I too am interested in the facts behind this. I made an SR20 det once from a std primera gti block, it held up very well, with no reportable failure.
Old 23 August 2011 | 07:55 AM
  #6  
Shaks-STI's Avatar
Shaks-STI
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,877
Likes: 0
From: Leicester
Default

i thought that the blocks were the same only the internals on WRX/STI were stronger then N/A but the blocks it self were the same.
Old 23 August 2011 | 08:49 AM
  #7  
boosted's Avatar
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1
From: harlow
Default

Originally Posted by BLACKSTI97
i thought that the blocks were the same only the internals on WRX/STI were stronger then N/A but the blocks it self were the same.
crank and rods are the same on 2.0 NA and 2.0 wrx turbo i belive also
Old 23 August 2011 | 01:22 PM
  #8  
wr pete's Avatar
wr pete
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

I have fitted turbos to Vw golf 1.8 normally aspirated gti engines with no failure, I've also fitted 16valve cylinder heads to 8v engine blocks with no problems that's why I was hoping I could use the na block I have now for a turbo build I always thought that all the blocks came off the same production line. I think I'll have to try and compare this block I have here with a turbo one, Unless someone can give me more info on this thanks for the input fellas
Old 23 August 2011 | 02:51 PM
  #9  
pete@s/e imprezas's Avatar
pete@s/e imprezas
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (47)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 958
Likes: 0
From: grove oxfordshire
Default

Hi all never stripped a n/a block so only going of what ive read.
just looking for the book now pretty sure its got pics to show the different cylinder wall thickness s
Old 23 August 2011 | 02:57 PM
  #10  
pete@s/e imprezas's Avatar
pete@s/e imprezas
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (47)
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 958
Likes: 0
From: grove oxfordshire
Default

might of got this slightly wrong on the 2litre block 2.5 n/a block deffinately different to the turbo block cylinder liners alot thinner
pic 1 ej20 turbo block
pic 2 ej25 n/a block

Old 23 August 2011 | 04:01 PM
  #11  
boosted's Avatar
boosted
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 2,514
Likes: 1
From: harlow
Default

Thanks for taking the time for posting the pics, the only problem being that they are ej20 and ej25 comparisons and prehaps not the best to compare? Still be really interested to find out if there is any differences between ej20 na and turbo casings
Old 23 August 2011 | 04:31 PM
  #12  
PeeVee's Avatar
PeeVee
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 1,496
Likes: 0
From: Canterbury. Kent
Default

No difference....

The 2.0L N/A & the 2.0L Turbo Wrx engines both share the same block casings.

Just to be certain of this (as it's been a few years since I was building these engines) I have checked the official Subaru parts program & it lists the same part number for both.

Last edited by PeeVee; 23 August 2011 at 04:35 PM.
Old 23 August 2011 | 05:50 PM
  #13  
wr pete's Avatar
wr pete
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 560
Likes: 0
From: Manchester
Default

Originally Posted by PeeVee
No difference....

The 2.0L N/A & the 2.0L Turbo Wrx engines both share the same block casings.

Just to be certain of this (as it's been a few years since I was building these engines) I have checked the official Subaru parts program & it lists the same part number for both.
Thanks a lot pee vee that's just what I wanted to hear
And thank you everyone else for your input on this thread.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
Sam Witwicky
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
17
13 November 2015 10:49 AM
Brzoza
Engine Management and ECU Remapping
1
02 October 2015 05:26 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM



Quick Reply: Engine blocks



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:28 PM.