pistonheeds post on e10 fuel coming next year..

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...ign=2011-12-20

..and by checking the list..

http://www.flexfuelkit.com.au/articl...E10/Page1.html

Impreza WRX STI (1999 to 2005) - dont comply..

What do we do? reMap them to take it? LPG convert them?

Bugger..

J

 

and biofuels cause 4 times more carbon emissions than petrol or diesel so even if you believe the climate change bollox it still doesn't make sense.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/env...emissions.html

 

If you follow the link at the bottom of the pistonheads page to their list is states the following or Subaru;


Subaru:
E10 petrol is cleared for use in all models with petrol engines manufactured from 1st January 1991 with
the exception of the following models:

All Vivio models.
Justy manufactured before April 1994.


Hopefully by the time it comes out there will be some sort of official statement from Subaru or something

 

another reason to hate the EU.

 

It maybe safe (ish) regarding corrosion of fuel lines but it totally messes with the octane rating so not good for subarus.

 

http://www.hrscc.co.nz/FJ-MotorSportNewsApril08.pdf

 

so e10 is less economical as well. great!

 

I wonder if general non turbo cars should get a remap for this E10.

 

http://www.allsafe-fuel.org/TechPaper.pdf

 

I thought it actually increased the octane rating?
Isnt the issue that its corrosive and so seal and fuel lines get attacked?

Surely they will need to find a way to make it safe for ALL cars?

 

That`s a lot of reading

 

Something will have to be done otherwise millions of cars will have to be scrapped.......ohhhhh, maybe that`s the governments plan

 

In reference to the OP's post the PH article about Bio Fuel compatibility is resourced from the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, the European Automobile Manufacturer's Association, and maybe the most significant - the Japan Automobile Manufacturers Association.

The article from Flexfuel appears to have been written back in 2008 by the Australian equivalent of Jeremy Clarkson, and the information is drawn from the Australian Consumer's Association. I don't know Ballinger's work and stand to be corrected if this innaccurate.

Whilst I think Clarkson et al do fine job of entertaining us, I would hope that the major associations backing the PH article have more up to date factual research to call on.
Or we're all in the ****

 

I know they won't NEED a remap but would it be beneficial?

 

It is often claimed to have 105 octane but this is a miscalculation. E85 has an octane rating of 94-96 so i dunno what E10 would actually be.

I also read somewhere it seperates when left in a fuel tank for a long time and will eat through the tank.

 

I run v/power and a 30% meth mix, think i'll change to 100% meth. Its about a quid a litre, so no that expensive, just a **** to start in the cold.

 

Millers do an Additive for cars that shouldn't use E10 http://www.millersoils.net/1_Millers_frame_CLASSIC.htm

 

one bottle treats 40L of fuel and its £6.99

 

What a load of f***ing ****e!God damn eu.Like theres not enuff things in life to worry about,now this!

 

I know, pretty sucky, but if there is an additive, surely sooner or later the fuel companies will sell it as Classic Safe E10 or some such ****.

 

Yep, looks like we're all 'okay' then.

I have no probs with getting a remap for it (at the point when V-Power starts to disappear over time). But will be mighty pissed if the calorific content means a significant drop in power and torque!

 

What i can make out any wrx sti made before 1999 or after 2005 is all ok what about uk2000 cars and wrx of all ages?
Also due to the new fuels being made available at the pumps some of the car will need a remap but by the new mot standards a remapped car will be a failure or am i getting a bit misled on this 1/

 

Everything is ****ed.

 

As far as i know all uk imprezas are fine, its the wrx sti classic that i thought had issues?

that MOT law is completely misunderstood. Remapping a car is not a failure.

 

Hopefully scale of production etc will make it reduce in cost. Surely the fuel companies can just add it at the pumps? Hope so as the skyline and pug both are not able to use it