Top Mount studs not long enough for brace
#1
Top Mount studs not long enough for brace
got a classic STI carbon front strut brace for my MY99 UK classic but the studs on the top of the top mounts dont have enough thread to fit the brace securely - nut is only about half threaded onto the stud
the top mounts where replaced 2yrs ago for KYB direct replacement items
any easy ways around this apart from:-
1. Change the top mounts
2. Dont fit the brace
the top mounts where replaced 2yrs ago for KYB direct replacement items
any easy ways around this apart from:-
1. Change the top mounts
2. Dont fit the brace
#5
it seems to be the nipples on the bottom side of the base plates causing the issue - without the nipple there'd be plenty of thread but the nipple is needed to clear the lip on the strut tower from what i can see
yeah id been told i could knock them out one at a tim, and replace each with a nut n bolt, meaning i wouldnt have to actually remove the strut to do it
#6
to give an example of what im on about. in this Whiteline fitting guide, it tells you to place a washer above and below the base plate
http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/ins...uides/Z295.pdf
but on the carbon STI brace there appears to be a 5mm+ thick washer/nipple integrated into the underside on the base plates which is causing me the issue
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...strut-cf-2.jpg
http://www.whiteline.com.au/docs/ins...uides/Z295.pdf
but on the carbon STI brace there appears to be a 5mm+ thick washer/nipple integrated into the underside on the base plates which is causing me the issue
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...strut-cf-2.jpg
#7
i see exactly what you mean now! i have a whiteline brace maybe thats why i didnt have this problem, what if you leave off the washer under the brace does that help at all? failing that i think you will have to remove studs and put in longer ones , only other thing i can think off is to file down the 5mm thick washer off your brace ( but thats a bit severe!)
cheers chris .
cheers chris .
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#8
they seem to be pressed into the base plate, as you can see from this pic show the top side - so im assuming i could press them out
http://www.gallery.rallybeater.com/d/339-2/DSC00228.JPG
but dont understand why it doesnt fit - looking at other top suspension top mount pics they dont look any longer than mine?
http://www.gallery.rallybeater.com/d/339-2/DSC00228.JPG
but dont understand why it doesnt fit - looking at other top suspension top mount pics they dont look any longer than mine?
#12
i think that is the problem, had another look today, and the mounts are defo up as far as possible as i can see the final thread on the studs
anyone got a close up pic of an STI brace fitted to their strut so i can see just how much difference there is with mine?
anyone got a close up pic of an STI brace fitted to their strut so i can see just how much difference there is with mine?
#15
im in two minds just to sell the brace again
gonna have a look at the weekend to see can i knock out the washer inserts in the base plates, and if i cant then prob will sell it. dont want to be putting new nuts n bolts through top mounts as im pretty certain it'll cause me more hassle than its worth
also, when i trial fitted the brace and nipped up the nuts as far as a could, about half threaded, i took the car a drive and hated how the steering felt which is sort of putting me of it also - steering went very light for some reason?!?
gonna have a look at the weekend to see can i knock out the washer inserts in the base plates, and if i cant then prob will sell it. dont want to be putting new nuts n bolts through top mounts as im pretty certain it'll cause me more hassle than its worth
also, when i trial fitted the brace and nipped up the nuts as far as a could, about half threaded, i took the car a drive and hated how the steering felt which is sort of putting me of it also - steering went very light for some reason?!?
Last edited by Gambit; 26 January 2012 at 10:23 PM.
#17
it shouldn't make any difference to how the car feels/steers
#18
just didnt like the feel on cornering - prob just take a bit of getting use to
#19
just outta curiosity what metal are the base plates?
in this he says titanium?!
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2143054
if so it shouldnt be that hard to knock out the aluminium inserts will it?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/...f8204c1f_b.jpg
in this he says titanium?!
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2143054
if so it shouldnt be that hard to knock out the aluminium inserts will it?
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5296/...f8204c1f_b.jpg
Last edited by Gambit; 27 January 2012 at 02:42 PM.
#20
Probably because they weren't seated or torqued correctly. All else is in your head. The standard carbon STi strut braces aren't very good in all honesty, they move in their own construction nevermind preventing strut movement.
#21
ok making progress, got the inserts drifted out handy enough, so now hopefully to find a new insert - couple of washers should do the trick - then fingers crossed ive now got enough thread!
as for the brace feeling weird it probably was all in my head seeing as the mounts where only nipped up i was in hyper sensitive mode!
as for the brace feeling weird it probably was all in my head seeing as the mounts where only nipped up i was in hyper sensitive mode!
#22
#23
mission accomplished. brace is now on with a full thread - std m10 washer above & below gave enough to get a full thread on the nut.
also, m10 spring washers outta b&q worked a treat at filling void in the base plates - exact same outer diameter size as the inserts
also, m10 spring washers outta b&q worked a treat at filling void in the base plates - exact same outer diameter size as the inserts
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