leggymark

Hi guys im converting my Scooby back to standard with good parts iv got laying about, well I had 440cc yellow top injectors think there phase 1's, now iv got some 380cc grey top's iv used out a v1 classic, now when trying to start my car after fitting its trying but never gets there.

Iv charged the battery untold times!!!, now my questions are fuel pressure regulator does that need changing to v1, also im running a 255 pump that will be changed to standard aswell, does that need changing first?? or are they just a real pig to start after injector change? cheers in advance Mark.

1509joe

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Check your fuel pressure probably a seal nipped when changing them over. IIRC if its a UK car it should probably have yellows in it for that year what version is it.

leggymark

must be a v4 mabie as it has crystal lights on the pre facelift bumpers?

1509joe

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Pretty sure it's supposed to have 440's is it a type r or ra

leggymark

No just a 2000 turbo 220bhp out the factory jobbie wouldn't have thought 440cc yellows on that model but cant find no info tbh Joe, with the mods it was an animal but not fuel efficient at all!!

leggymark

mine was manufactured in 01 08 1998 think this is just behind the revision date to when they changed to 440's??, I know the injectors that came out were exactly the same as v1 injectors just yellows.

1509joe

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What is the number on the standard ecu you are using.

leggymark

Ecu is a (S8) dude, the engine has the coil pack in the centre of the inlet if that helps?

1509joe

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Sure it's not 8S

leggymark

yea think 8s silly me

1509joe

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What colour label is your afm the injectors I am pretty sure should be yellow with an 8s ecu the fuel pump will be fine you have my number 5 mins will sort out on phone.

leggymark

I will chck maf later, been a blimming busy day, was looking into it and theres mixed views, a lot say 380cc for upto late 1998 others say 1998 is fine all together its 1999 to 2000 they changed?, but my ecu if I search it on ebay lists it as 1997 to 1998 so guessing 380cc.

leggymark

Its a purple maf meter matey.

Andy Stevens

They are 440cc 96>

leggymark

Cheers guess ill have to swap them over again, but it did run like a bag of poop on the old injectors?, I mean nearly stalling so mabie maf is caput will have to check the codes I guess with the wire under the dash

leggymark

Hi back to square one, car runs like a dog with yellows not had time to check codes but its running very rich, my question is now a friend came around with he's uk 2000 wagon on a 1997 plate same as mine engine wise, this has 380cc grey top injectors, I know you guys state yellows for this year but surely why has this wagon got grey injectors cheers Mark.

leggymark

Small update car is still not starting now with yellows 440cc either keeps flooding, checked codes and nothing, im now wondering if iv messed up something with the pin out when I changed ecu over need someone with photo's of wiring to ecu plugs so I can match them up to mine, im getting to the point now were im just gonna break her up and sell for parts!!!! HELP PLEASE!!

328isport

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I've always believed that up to 98 was 380cc, didn't they change over to 440cc on the facelift update, i.e when they changed to 4 pots etc? Are the seals all good on the 380s? Do you know these are all good as in was the V1 running fine when they were taken off?

leggymark

Hi yeah car was a perfectly fine running v1 just was too rotton so broke it up, I have been reading the same and have looked at a few uk's with my engine with coil pack in centre (v3/4 design) and they was 380cc injectors, to me the 440's over fuel it!!, but iv tonight taken out the walbro 255 fuel pump and replaced with standard, gonna change fuel regulator tomorrow, and seals are all good matey iv got a few spares, piles of stuff tbh. Just baffled, I read codes as cant even get it idling. I checked the pack tonight and im getting a good solid spark so know its no that, its overfueling that bad its just dripping out the gasket on the exhaust manifold. unkown to what else it can be tbh im running out of idea's and interest real fast, idea's much much appreciated.

leggymark

Tomorrow is swap out the 440's and try the 380's again, swap out the plugs with another used set iv got from the v1 heads, let the engine breath a while with no plugs in the heads, check the leads etc anything else worth checking?, tomorrow is the cars last chance then it be sadly another classic for parts.

leggymark

Ok some news the car is running on the 380cc injectors doesn't smell rich like the 440's, but still yes ill repeat still having issues, now the car is running with a slight missfire and hessitent when warm on idle fine before choke is on, iv tried changing the idle valve and throttle body as it showed a code 24 its improved but still there I cleaned the plugs so cant see that being the problem, leads are abit soddy?its showing a code 12 aswell?