Notices

08 Hatch Pulling to right

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 31 January 2014, 12:54 PM
  #1  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default 08 Hatch Pulling to right

Hi

First post so be nice

Bought a 08 Hatch Sti with Prodrive map etc.

Everything was perfect no issue till I suddenly started getting an issue as when I put some power down I get a huge pull to the right.

changed the diff settings and still get this issue even when diff open.

I thought this must be a tracking issue, had this done (will upload if I can results) and no difference.

The car feels dangerous and in no way the same car that I was driving in the first two weeks.

Hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
Attached Thumbnails Click image for larger version

Name:	IMAG0873.jpg
Views:	0
Size:	245.3 KB
ID:	15180  
Old 31 January 2014, 01:11 PM
  #2  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Who did the tracking? I'd get it to a specialist, not a tyre place. PowerStation, Carnetix, Scoobyclinic etc.

Are all the tyres the same? same pressures on each axle? Slightly higher front than rear?

Are all tyres WORN the same? Same make? same size?
Old 31 January 2014, 01:53 PM
  #3  
stressballsteve
Scooby Regular
 
stressballsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bromley
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

not sure about the settings they've applied...here are the ones that come with the prodrive lowering springs, not sure what the default values should be

Minimum / Preferred / Maximum

Front camber: -0*50' / -0*55' / -1*00'
(for very aggresive use take this to max on adjustment approx -1*30')

Front toe-in (total): 0*08' / 0*10' / 0*12'

Front caster: 6*25' (Referential value)

Rear camber: -1*35' (Referential value)

Rear toe-in (total): 0*16' / 0*20' / 0*22'

Thrust angle: -0*01' / 0*00' / 0*01'
Old 31 January 2014, 01:54 PM
  #4  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

These guys did the tracking http://www.f1autocentres.co.uk/index.php

The front right had a tyre swap and I will check the air pressure but feels horrible. all The tyres are p-zero's.

really is a horrible pull
Old 31 January 2014, 01:56 PM
  #5  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by stressballsteve
not sure about the settings they've applied...here are the ones that come with the prodrive lowering springs, not sure what the default values should be

Minimum / Preferred / Maximum

Front camber: -0*50' / -0*55' / -1*00'
(for very aggresive use take this to max on adjustment approx -1*30')

Front toe-in (total): 0*08' / 0*10' / 0*12'

Front caster: 6*25' (Referential value)

Rear camber: -1*35' (Referential value)

Rear toe-in (total): 0*16' / 0*20' / 0*22'

Thrust angle: -0*01' / 0*00' / 0*01'
Mine has the pro-drive mapping and straight through exhaust but does it have the springs?
Old 31 January 2014, 02:00 PM
  #6  
stressballsteve
Scooby Regular
 
stressballsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bromley
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

they weren't standard with the PPP...you'll need to check the springs, they'll have pro-drive printed on them somewhere. I assume the measurements above would be OK on the normal springs, but best get it checked by a specialist as Alcazar has suggested.
Old 31 January 2014, 02:12 PM
  #7  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Called Power Station,

Says put right tyre on the left and test. could be a dodgy tyre. if not could be a bush. dont think its the tracking.


what should the psi be in 18's 32?

will also check the air pressure.
Old 31 January 2014, 02:46 PM
  #8  
stressballsteve
Scooby Regular
 
stressballsteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bromley
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

34 front 32 rear?...
Old 31 January 2014, 02:53 PM
  #9  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

The above looks OK.

You say "tyre swap"? So how much more worn is the other one on the same axle?
Old 31 January 2014, 03:23 PM
  #10  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

no idea, I got a nail in my original tyre and swapped it over, the tyre i put on was a p-zero from my previous car that I had spare. almost a brand new tyre. going to see if i have any play in the wheel as in a bush issue if not going to buy 2 front tyres. I can't see this been any issues with the diff?
Old 31 January 2014, 03:26 PM
  #11  
JaptechSmokey
Scooby Regular
 
JaptechSmokey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

so you have 2 different tyre makes and tread depths on the same axle already?

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=18

Last edited by JaptechSmokey; 31 January 2014 at 03:28 PM.
Old 31 January 2014, 04:38 PM
  #12  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

both are still p-zero's front

The front left now has less tread than the right


very good link by the way. I'm starting to think new tyres should I buy two fronts only?

http://www.blackcircles.com/catalogu...&tyre=14227772

Last edited by CyanideX; 31 January 2014 at 04:40 PM.
Old 31 January 2014, 04:54 PM
  #13  
JaptechSmokey
Scooby Regular
 
JaptechSmokey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Cumbria
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

it might be a good idea depending on the degree of difference. i wouldnt imagine it would be pulling hard unless you had an actual fault with a tyre (misshapen or curbed etc) or if you had a significant fault with the drive to that wheel? i would pop into a specialist if youre not comfortable checking things over yourself
Old 31 January 2014, 05:42 PM
  #14  
alcazar
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
alcazar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Rl'yeh
Posts: 40,781
Received 27 Likes on 25 Posts
Default

Swapping the two fronts may not be an option, most performance tyres tend to be rotation directional.
Old 31 January 2014, 08:22 PM
  #15  
rob84
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
rob84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: somewhere out there
Posts: 5,287
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default

Its a tyre issue, quite common on the hatch if its got worn or odd tyres on the front.
Old 31 January 2014, 10:55 PM
  #16  
cster
Scooby Regular
 
cster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,753
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Had the same problem. Swapped the tyres and it pulled the other way.
Old 02 February 2014, 07:14 PM
  #17  
CyanideX
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
CyanideX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Telford
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes got this sorted, ended up getting four new tyres (Avon ZZ5's)

First time with any Avons and a fantastic tyre so far!

The car now feels perfect thanks all.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
JimBowen
ICE
5
02 July 2023 01:54 PM
Rbon91
ScoobyNet General
49
21 November 2018 03:23 PM
fatboy_coach
General Technical
15
18 June 2016 03:48 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
IAN WR1
ScoobyNet General
8
28 September 2015 08:14 PM



Quick Reply: 08 Hatch Pulling to right



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:49 AM.