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Old 04 April 2001 | 10:57 PM
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Anyone got any favourites for the rear shelf - do 6*9's fit (I dont have a clue)

I dont rearly want subs as I want to retain boot so I want some of the bassiest ones possible with excellent clarity

I have the Dynn's 2way components or possibly Diamond 3 ways planned for the fronts (with soundproofing) and will prob use a Soundstream/Genesis amp -are these amps over the top if I dont use subs?

If I do use subs will having rear speakers detract from the sound? - as installs are better normally without the rear to let the sound flood thru? - but I can remove the rears at a later date - or should I just keep them in (if I chose subs - unlikely) - is there such a huge difference running both?

Thanks in advance for comments

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Old 05 April 2001 | 02:44 AM
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Dave ,

IMHO , Even if you have 1 x 10" sub , do it , there is a lot of sound missing out of music without bass , I have 2x 12" in a box which I made (took me a day to make , but worth it) , and still have considerable boot space left .
Regarding speakers on the shelf , you only want them to be there in the background , or as it is known in the ICE trade 'Rear-fill' , if you have A Sub , the rear speakers don't have to be so crucial .

As for Genesis amps , VERY GOOD , I have a monoblock and it does the biz , they have lots of combos all wrapped into one amp , give Genesis a call direct , they are based 5 minutes away from me , Call Southend (01702)611180 , the Prop. of the company is Gordan Sinclair and he knows alot about amps , he would best tell you what you need for your particular install .

Hope this helps

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Old 05 April 2001 | 08:15 AM
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How about mounting 2 8" subs under the parcel shelf in a small box and removing the rear speakers completely?

Failing that, I believe Tony Nesta has fitted some - check
Old 05 April 2001 | 10:55 PM
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How are people fitting the subs?

How doyou secure them without creating a series of holes in the boot floor? - velcose does not work on a moving carpet floor?

I think I'll not bother with the 6*9's then.

I hear that you cant have that much Bass in a Scoob as it vibrates like mad in the boot and Soundproofing is a nightmare in the rear of the car
Also too much of a Bass enclosure may crack the rear spoiler -I have heard of this happening.

I think I'll try Tony Nesta.

I had a problem with a previous car with two subs with one only working intermitently -annoyed me so much that I didnt want to do it again - probably the connections - but I could not find a fault and when both subs kicked the sound was great!

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I've fitted a wedge shaped box that takes up the space behind the seats -


Its secured by screwing into the box through the support for the back seats.

Others have fitted a sub box into the side of the boot to retain the folding seats. The passenger side is a better bet here, as the petrol filler is on the right.

A generally accepted way of mounting things is to make a firm base/floor first with the necessary mounting points, then screw into this.
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Pretty proud of that thing ain't ya Nick
Rightly so,very sweet install.
As for the question,I've seen Ultimate 3-way 8"s that have a 6x9 bolt pattern.Quality unknown.Anyone heard them?
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Looks nice

I'm off to Cheltenham Car Hi-fi centre next Wednesday to have a chat with them as they are authorised Genesis dealers

I've decided I want a system that will give me a head massage
This means lots of soundproofing and at least two decent amps!

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Chiark,

Like you , I have a wedge shaped box (different angle near seats to the rear , was a complete bu66er!!!) , I made it almost exact fit to the shape of the inside of the boot/trunk , then made a new 3/4" MDF floor which keeps the subs in situe , using the existing spare wheel well cover holes as anchoring points for the new floor , I hasten to add that from the new floorpan , I cut out the hole for gaining entry to my spare wheel (hope I don't need it!) , as I said , when all is finished , I'll have a bash at posting some pics.

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