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Old 22 May 2002, 10:35 AM
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Yesterday was my birthday, so a friend of mine working for Subaru Israel gave a WRX Prodrive (245hp) for the day,
So I took the wife and the dog to a day trip to the Golan heights and here are the pictures...

The car:




The wife and dog:



sea of Galilee:





next to the remains of a Syrian tank (from the "Yom Kipur" war):




Old 22 May 2002, 12:01 PM
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Looks like a cool way to spend a birthday
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Old 22 May 2002, 12:06 PM
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You are a very lucky man!
That tank was wierd.....anyone in it?
Has your missus got any unmarried sisters
Old 22 May 2002, 04:11 PM
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Yoza - anything to turn a thread into a shark eh

Nice photos .... not a bad present, must be a good friend!!

Edited because I can't type!!

[Edited by Somerset Yokel - 5/22/2002 4:12:08 PM]
Old 22 May 2002, 11:02 PM
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ive just seen them on vwvortex.
great pics btw
Old 22 May 2002, 11:58 PM
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Nice car - I assume by "Prodrive" you mean that it had Performance Pack ECU upgrade? I didn't think that was available outside the UK?


PS. At the risk of being a complete spotter, I don't think the tank is Syrian; it looks like an IDF M48 or M60...

I will, as we say in England, get my my coat..



[Edited by SimonH - 5/22/2002 11:58:46 PM]
Old 23 May 2002, 12:05 AM
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much prefer the tank!
Old 23 May 2002, 07:29 AM
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I don't think the tank is Syrian; it looks like an IDF M48 or M60...
It is a Syrian tank and its a Russian T-48 (or something like that) you can see beacause of its round shape and small proportions and there's the cannon which has the bump (its a gas something...my english) which is in the middle unlike western tanks who have it in the...

anyway I'm a Merkava tank commander in the resrves...



[Edited by elondan - 5/23/2002 8:07:12 AM]
Old 23 May 2002, 08:18 AM
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The pictures you keep posting on israel look rather nice, do you work for the office of tourism by any chance?

Its probably because the only time we see israel mentioned on tv etc over here is when something bad has happened, rather nice to see some other parts of it.

Looking forward to seeing more photo's, purely from a scenery point of view and nothing to do with the attractive lady, er honest



[Edited by ptholt - 5/23/2002 8:19:33 AM]
Old 23 May 2002, 09:46 AM
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At the risk of detracting from your nice car pictures, I disagree about the tank

It's an Israeli M48 with a 105mm (British L7?) gun, hence the "bump" (gas expander I think) in the middle of the barrel. You can tell it's not Russian by the fact that the rear of the turret base is slightly raised (so that it can clear the top of the engine deck). The turret is also too tall to be a Russian one. There's a few other things but I fear I am now boring you all



More pictures here and here

I'm not a tank driver but I did do a lot recognition training during my air force training so we knew what to bomb and what not to bomb


PS. I'm still intrigued to know if Prodrive are officially marketing the PPP for MY01 cars overseas. I assume this might be the case as it is sold as kit and dealers can fit it....
Old 23 May 2002, 10:10 AM
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Trust me its a Syrian T-48 or T-52,
hence the "bump" (gas expander I think) in the middle of the barrel
which you find only in Eastern tanks in Western ones its in third:
M-60:

like in the Merkava Mk2 which also uses the 105mm british design:




[Edited by elondan - 5/23/2002 10:11:38 AM]
Old 23 May 2002, 10:13 AM
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Oh and Yes they sell Prodrive here in Israel.
I plan on putting one on my GT MY99.
Old 23 May 2002, 11:51 AM
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Lol
It could go on forever however I still don't agree....

Unless I'm very much mistaken there were no T48 or T52 Russian tanks. T34, T54, T55, T62, T64 T72 etc (sounds like an Ericsson phone catalogue ). The only T48 I know of is the pre-production M48 US tank....

Agree with your point about the fume extractor but in your picture it is quite near the turret - just by your dog's nose in the picture

It also has IDF markings on the barrel - the 3 white rings (3rd Company....etc).

The other reasons I think it’s a US tank (M60 or M48)... As I said the rear of the turret overhangs the actual turret ring as shown by the lower red arrow. The other arrow shows part of the turret ventilation system just below the commander’s cupola. Not marked (only just noticed ) but the dark rectangle area at the turret end of the barrel looks like an IDF decoy smoke grenade rack.




This is an M48 – ignore the cupola on top of the turret (yellow arrow), IDF ones use a lower profile one. The full shape of the lower turret is partially obscured by the stowage box in the foreground but you can clearly see the rear overhang of the turret.





This drawing of a T62 shows the much lower profile turret and the lack of the rear turret overhang




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Old 23 May 2002, 12:04 PM
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SimonH> It is the size of your gun that counts, isn't it? (I'm referring(sp?) to the picture u linked to)
/Swede

[Edited by Aquila - 5/23/2002 12:05:41 PM]
Old 23 May 2002, 12:19 PM
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Im doubting that the car in the picture is in fact a Subaru!
You can clearly see that the bump on the bonnet is in fact in the wrong place.
Also the overhang on the rear bumper is far to low.
And clearly the dog in the back is in fact a sheep,with a dark fur coat on.
Elondan,there is no fooling me you know.
And the tank is a cardboard cutout from the back of a cerial packet.
Your wife is obviously a mirage...something of such perfection only exists in the mind!
Yoza
Old 23 May 2002, 12:35 PM
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yoza -- knowing which Subarus to bomb is not part of the RAF training, AFAIK
Old 23 May 2002, 12:39 PM
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Good job then isnt it,
Its a Sierra I think? hard to tell....maybe a Chrysler Neon.
I could get a job with the American tank busters at this rate
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Thanks Yoza.
and you're right this isn't an Impreza, its a Russian Lada...

Old 24 May 2002, 06:29 PM
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We have the PPP also in Portugal.

(Tanks a million for listening )
Old 24 May 2002, 07:13 PM
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As you can all quite clearly see, I do need to get out a lot more ..... which I did today, testing out the limits of my new Defi boost gauge
Seems to have sorted me out, so I promise not to mention tanks again

Back to cars for brief instant then, is it only PPP for the new shape cars that can now be purchased overseas? As far as I'm know the "classic" shape scoobs still have to go to Prodrive in Banbury for the PPP.....?
Old 24 May 2002, 10:50 PM
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Well they do install PPP to the GT ever since the MY99 came out...
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