Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, just ignore them.
12 June 2014, 08:21 PM
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Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Syria, just ignore them.
Annoying, but are we devoting too much time to them. Saudi Arabia sits in the middle of them, but they seem able to carry on with life. Why don't we just ignore them, the rest of the world seems to, and they are living next door.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
15 June 2014, 09:44 AM
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So when Saddam used chemical weapons on the Kurds and killed around 10,000 people we should turn a blind eye? On a smaller scale woman who simply want to be able to choose their own life partner are tortured and murdered in the name of religious belief, and we should say nothing?
I really don't like the fact that the UK seems to be a self elected global policeman. However can you really ignore that kind of inhumanity?
I really don't like the fact that the UK seems to be a self elected global policeman. However can you really ignore that kind of inhumanity?
15 June 2014, 01:20 PM
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I am sick and tired of our nation always trying to help a Muslim state with issues such as this and then it gets thrown back in our face and accused of occupying etc.
Leave them to it and don't waste our tax money.
Leave them to it and don't waste our tax money.
15 June 2014, 04:54 PM
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Two words, one very basic product, which once refined has multiple uses which the west will pay heavily for, as currently it's the only way of keeping the known way of life going.
Crude Oil
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15 June 2014, 07:54 PM
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The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
15 June 2014, 11:11 PM
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Exactly this....
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
16 June 2014, 12:09 AM
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Exactly this....
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
not 100% sure though. Lets say your right then what would be the alternative, if they (government's) were to be honest with us all and explained that are need for oil etc came at a high price, would we all accept that its our greed that fuels the demand. The truth can be hard to swallow sometimes and the comfort blanket we all love so much has its price.
16 June 2014, 09:56 AM
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This is the sentiment of the peace envoy for the middle east, at least for Iraq.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...litary-options
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...litary-options
16 June 2014, 09:59 AM
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16 June 2014, 10:03 AM
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Exactly this....
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
The reasons we invade or attack other countries is 100% for resources.
The powers that be invent a reason as an excuse to invade, the term used for this a "false flag".
False flag is covert military or paramilitary operations designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by groups or nations other than those who actually planned and executed them.
16 June 2014, 10:30 AM
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I am not saying in anyway that war is just a slight increase in the day to day running cost of a army.
16 June 2014, 10:36 AM
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You have a good point but a lot of the 2 trillion would still have been payed out regardless of the Iraq war. For example the 2 trillion will have been made up from the wages of the soldiers/staff, these would have been payed anyway. And let's not forget that even in peaceful times there's always weapons to test, a friend of mine used to tell me of big guns that he would test that cost upwards of £30,000 in ammo.
I am not saying in anyway that war is just a slight increase in the day to day running cost of a army.
I am not saying in anyway that war is just a slight increase in the day to day running cost of a army.
The figure is expected to double over the next few decades with the cost of veterans medical benefits
16 June 2014, 12:45 PM
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The real reason as to why the invasion happened, OIL.........prior to invasion Saddam Hussain decided to sell and trade Iraq oil in other currencies other than the dollar,this sent shockwaves in the US government so something had to done to negate this hence the invasion that followed.
Gaddaffi who was also trying to move out of the petro dollar was also killed by the west for it.
Gaddaffi who was also trying to move out of the petro dollar was also killed by the west for it.
16 June 2014, 05:11 PM
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The real reason as to why the invasion happened, OIL.........prior to invasion Saddam Hussain decided to sell and trade Iraq oil in other currencies other than the dollar,this sent shockwaves in the US government so something had to done to negate this hence the invasion that followed.
Gaddaffi who was also trying to move out of the petro dollar was also killed by the west for it.
Gaddaffi who was also trying to move out of the petro dollar was also killed by the west for it.
So much so that the pultry amount of oil Sadam was allowed to sell that the US decided to invade
I had a right good laugh reading some of the other nonsense on that silly site you literally 'cut and paste' this from
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16 June 2014, 05:24 PM
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Of course i don't believe everything thats on the Internet, you obviously believe everything that's on the BBC on the idiot box!
The beauty of the Internet and certain independent sites is that, unlike the TV that you seem to worship so much, ALL SIDES of an issue are presented on the Internet.
Do some research yourself, it may open your eyes.
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk
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16 June 2014, 05:30 PM
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You are so narrow minded and naive.
Of course i don't believe everything thats on the Internet, you obviously believe everything that's on the BBC on the idiot box!
The beauty of the Internet and certain independent sites is that, unlike the TV that you seem to worship so much, all sides of an issue are presented on the Internet.
Of course i don't believe everything thats on the Internet, you obviously believe everything that's on the BBC on the idiot box!
The beauty of the Internet and certain independent sites is that, unlike the TV that you seem to worship so much, all sides of an issue are presented on the Internet.
Because I don't agree with you, you then decide that I'm 'in love with the BBC' and 'worship mainstream media' - that is a very wrong assumption and a facile way of debating.
The problem with your arguments are that they simply do not add up, carry a flimsy amount of truth, and rely on extrapolation and exaggeration.
The internet a far far less relaible source of 'truth' than any other media, mainly because it's full of wackadoodle sites like the one you copied from
And when you say 'do some research' all that means is find out stuff that you want to be true, no matter how daft the source is
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16 June 2014, 06:13 PM
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And this is the problem with your argument.
Because I don't agree with you, you then decide that I'm 'in love with the BBC' and 'worship mainstream media' - that is a very wrong assumption and a facile way of debating.
The problem with your arguments are that they simply do not add up, carry a flimsy amount of truth, and rely on extrapolation and exaggeration.
The internet a far far less relaible source of 'truth' than any other media, mainly because it's full of wackadoodle sites like the one you copied from
And when you say 'do some research' all that means is find out stuff that you want to be true, no matter how daft the source is
Because I don't agree with you, you then decide that I'm 'in love with the BBC' and 'worship mainstream media' - that is a very wrong assumption and a facile way of debating.
The problem with your arguments are that they simply do not add up, carry a flimsy amount of truth, and rely on extrapolation and exaggeration.
The internet a far far less relaible source of 'truth' than any other media, mainly because it's full of wackadoodle sites like the one you copied from
And when you say 'do some research' all that means is find out stuff that you want to be true, no matter how daft the source is
You, like me and every other tom dick n Harry are here for 2 reasons.........to make the powers that be richer and more powerful and to consume.
There is more to life than what you are led to believe Martin.
We will agree to disagree.
16 June 2014, 06:16 PM
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It's because of consumers like you, the truths will never surface and become a reality, they will always be conspiracies,,,, yes there are many millions more brainwashed by the mass media machine I admit, I can't believe you are so naive and brainwashed that you believe everything that is said,written and broadcast.
You, like me and every other tom dick n Harry are here for 2 reasons.........to make the powers that be richer and more powerful and to consume.
There is more to life than what you are led to believe Martin.
We will agree to disagree.
You, like me and every other tom dick n Harry are here for 2 reasons.........to make the powers that be richer and more powerful and to consume.
There is more to life than what you are led to believe Martin.
We will agree to disagree.
