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That really is telling it how a lot of people see it.
The strange thing is it would seem to be almost a corporate message from the national broadcaster. I say this because he was obviously reciting from a teleprompter which would indicate it's an edited piece, which would imply corporate involvement and approval.
Aunty BBC has got her fighting knickers on
The strange thing is it would seem to be almost a corporate message from the national broadcaster. I say this because he was obviously reciting from a teleprompter which would indicate it's an edited piece, which would imply corporate involvement and approval.
Aunty BBC has got her fighting knickers on
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Very well put
Thanks for putting it up mate and very well put and said
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I can't see the BBC allowing Neil the leeway to air his personal views without either their tacit approval or subsequent disciplinary actions being instigated as for previous occasions where employees have misused/exploited their priviledged position in similar ways such as Clarkson, Kenny Everett, et al. In such circumstances retribution from the 'Fith Floor' has always been very swift.
I wouldn't disagree that the primary author was Neil, but to make it on to a teleprompter requires the colusion of other departments such as editing and I can't see that happening without authority from higher up, hence my suspicion of corporate BBC approval.
Whatever the corporate position is, I'm not disagreeing with the message, 'ISIS you will be as dust'.
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I wouldn't disagree that the primary author was Neil, but to make it on to a teleprompter requires the colusion of other departments such as editing and I can't see that happening without authority from higher up, hence my suspicion of corporate BBC approval.
Whatever the corporate position is, I'm not disagreeing with the message, 'ISIS you will be as dust'.
Rock on Andy
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Dirty cowardly brainwashing scum of this earth
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I can't see the BBC allowing Neil the leeway to air his personal views without either their tacit approval or subsequent disciplinary actions being instigated as for previous occasions where employees have misused/exploited their priviledged position in similar ways such as Clarkson, Kenny Everett, et al. In such circumstances retribution from the 'Fith Floor' has always been very swift.
I wouldn't disagree that the primary author was Neil, but to make it on to a teleprompter requires the colusion of other departments such as editing and I can't see that happening without authority from higher up, hence my suspicion of corporate BBC approval.
Whatever the corporate position is, I'm not disagreeing with the message, 'ISIS you will be as dust'.
Rock on Andy
I wouldn't disagree that the primary author was Neil, but to make it on to a teleprompter requires the colusion of other departments such as editing and I can't see that happening without authority from higher up, hence my suspicion of corporate BBC approval.
Whatever the corporate position is, I'm not disagreeing with the message, 'ISIS you will be as dust'.
Rock on Andy
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That depends on a personal point of view. His statement was mainly based on personal opinion and broadcast using facilities paid for by public subscription, so whilst the content of the piece may not be controversial, his use of a publicly funded organisation (as an employee of that organisation) to express those opinions most definitely is.
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"Islamist scumbags" could be considered an over generalisation. If he'd have said "Salafist jihadi Islamist scumbags" he'd have been more accurate, but may well have offended al-Qaeda and their supporters.
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^^^ NUKE THEM n ALL!! Al kafukiwateva
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That depends on a personal point of view. His statement was mainly based on personal opinion and broadcast using facilities paid for by public subscription, so whilst the content of the piece may not be controversial, his use of a publicly funded organisation (as an employee of that organisation) to express those opinions most definitely is.
I don't think there's too much that could be construed as controversial in that. That's his opinion and the opinion of any sane person currently breathing.
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All the bloke and his bosses have done is put him in the firing line, he was probably a willing participant most likely due to his own personal outrage, but what will it achieve, ultimately the people that did this and their supporters will be pleased they got a reaction and some airtime on the establishment tv station of the uk, therefore a propaganda victory for them.
I'd starve them of airtime personally as this sort of reaction is what feeds them and helps them with their goal of causing world wide terror, can't breath or breed without air.
I'd starve them of airtime personally as this sort of reaction is what feeds them and helps them with their goal of causing world wide terror, can't breath or breed without air.
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His statement was a simple juxtaposition between the 'city of love', and the things the French have given the world, against a bunch of murdering *******s, who given nothing to the world.
I don't think there's too much that could be construed as controversial in that. That's his opinion and the opinion of any sane person currently breathing.
I don't think there's too much that could be construed as controversial in that. That's his opinion and the opinion of any sane person currently breathing.
His statement was mainly based on personal opinion and broadcast using facilities paid for by public subscription, so whilst the content of the piece may not be controversial, his use of a publicly funded organisation (as an employee of that organisation) to express those opinions most definitely is.
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Usually a lot more controversial than these comments.
Still don't understand why you feel this is a big deal?
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I have said nowhere that it's a big deal.
What I have said is that the use of a public broadcast facility funded by public subscription for expression of privately held opinion is controversial.
The fact that you and I are having this debate surely supports that statement
What I have said is that the use of a public broadcast facility funded by public subscription for expression of privately held opinion is controversial.
The fact that you and I are having this debate surely supports that statement
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I don't want to pay for a BBC that just reports RTAs on the M25. I want to hear opinions from an eclectic range of people especially ones that know what they are talking about.
But I would expect the Beeb to draw a veil over extreme speakers perhaps spouting IS propaganda or pure racism.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Beeb feeling on this board and I don't really know why.
I've watched TV in many countries and the Beeb is about the best there is.
It has some great presenters - take James Naughtie from Today for example, or if you want your kids to appreciate the English language then listen to Kate Adie's From our own Correspondent.
Neil is also up there with the top crew.
David
But I would expect the Beeb to draw a veil over extreme speakers perhaps spouting IS propaganda or pure racism.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Beeb feeling on this board and I don't really know why.
I've watched TV in many countries and the Beeb is about the best there is.
It has some great presenters - take James Naughtie from Today for example, or if you want your kids to appreciate the English language then listen to Kate Adie's From our own Correspondent.
Neil is also up there with the top crew.
David
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Hope that helps as a starter....
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All the bloke and his bosses have done is put him in the firing line, he was probably a willing participant most likely due to his own personal outrage, but what will it achieve, ultimately the people that did this and their supporters will be pleased they got a reaction and some airtime on the establishment tv station of the uk, therefore a propaganda victory for them.
I'd starve them of airtime personally as this sort of reaction is what feeds them and helps them with their goal of causing world wide terror, can't breath or breed without air.
I'd starve them of airtime personally as this sort of reaction is what feeds them and helps them with their goal of causing world wide terror, can't breath or breed without air.
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I don't want to pay for a BBC that just reports RTAs on the M25. I want to hear opinions from an eclectic range of people especially ones that know what they are talking about.
But I would expect the Beeb to draw a veil over extreme speakers perhaps spouting IS propaganda or pure racism.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Beeb feeling on this board and I don't really know why.
I've watched TV in many countries and the Beeb is about the best there is.
It has some great presenters - take James Naughtie from Today for example, or if you want your kids to appreciate the English language then listen to Kate Adie's From our own Correspondent.
Neil is also up there with the top crew.
David
But I would expect the Beeb to draw a veil over extreme speakers perhaps spouting IS propaganda or pure racism.
There seems to be a lot of anti-Beeb feeling on this board and I don't really know why.
I've watched TV in many countries and the Beeb is about the best there is.
It has some great presenters - take James Naughtie from Today for example, or if you want your kids to appreciate the English language then listen to Kate Adie's From our own Correspondent.
Neil is also up there with the top crew.
David
I'm not anti BBC. The BBC sets world class standards for reporting and presentation of news matters. However as pointed out by warrenm2 it can be very one sided in it's presentation of 'how things are'.
Presenters? Again I think they are mainly world class, including Andrew Neil.
My point has only been that to permit an employee exclusive national air time to expound his personal opinions (re 'scumbags') is controversial.
David, if you were to try and grab some BBC air time to air your opinions about ISIS you wouldn't have a hope in hell of doing so.
That's my point.