Lord's Prayer cinema ad ban.
22 November 2015, 07:27 AM
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What, the run-up to Christmas? I trust your implication is not that she is capitalising on the Paris massacre! Besides, there's no way the whole thing could have been produced, submitted and subsequently rejected inside a week.
22 November 2015, 09:20 AM
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I think it's a good decision, if people want to hear, sing or be involved with god of any description then they already have their places to do so.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
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22 November 2015, 10:01 AM
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I think it's a good decision, if people want to hear, sing or be involved with god of any description then they already have their places to do so.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
but hey that's just my opinion
22 November 2015, 10:10 AM
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I think it's a good decision, if people want to hear, sing or be involved with god of any description then they already have their places to do so.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
I am pretty 'anti-religious' (probably an understatement). I've seen what religion has done to people in the middle-East on a first-hand basis. I do not want it shoved down my throat every time I step outside my front door, ESPECIALLY not somewhere like the cinema where I go to watch some good ol' escapism for a couple of hours.
22 November 2015, 10:12 AM
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As for the time constraints, I believe the Band Aid single of '84 was totally completed in 4 days.
And that really was for charity
22 November 2015, 10:23 AM
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Must be the first time I agree with you on something Ditch.
I am pretty 'anti-religious' (probably an understatement). I've seen what religion has done to people in the middle-East on a first-hand basis. I do not want it shoved down my throat every time I step outside my front door, ESPECIALLY not somewhere like the cinema where I go to watch some good ol' escapism for a couple of hours.
I am pretty 'anti-religious' (probably an understatement). I've seen what religion has done to people in the middle-East on a first-hand basis. I do not want it shoved down my throat every time I step outside my front door, ESPECIALLY not somewhere like the cinema where I go to watch some good ol' escapism for a couple of hours.
22 November 2015, 10:41 AM
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The church that I am part of did advertise itself in the local cinema and the sports stadium.
However I do question how effective advertising is through this method, as far as I know not one person joined the church and it cost a considerable amount of finance to advertise in these environments.
I'm not 100% certain but I think the Anglican's have released a report about the lack of 'faith sharing' withing the ranks of their parish communities. This advertisement maybe part of their response and strategy in encouraging their people to be more pro-active in 'faith sharing.'
I do agree with Ossett2k2 that advertising ought to be banned in the cinema even though it's a income stream for them because I just want to enjoy the film I paid to watch unresticted.
However I do question how effective advertising is through this method, as far as I know not one person joined the church and it cost a considerable amount of finance to advertise in these environments.
I'm not 100% certain but I think the Anglican's have released a report about the lack of 'faith sharing' withing the ranks of their parish communities. This advertisement maybe part of their response and strategy in encouraging their people to be more pro-active in 'faith sharing.'
I do agree with Ossett2k2 that advertising ought to be banned in the cinema even though it's a income stream for them because I just want to enjoy the film I paid to watch unresticted.
22 November 2015, 11:12 AM
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The cinema people were complete idiots for telling the Church they'd play the ad to begin with, but it's completely understandable (even if only in hindsight), that they'd say no now, on the basis that if they let the CoE screen ads, they'll have all sorts queuing up behind them wanting to screen theirs, including political parties, weirdo cults like the Scientologists, etc. Best to avoid the whole can of worms by saying no to everybody, but again, they should have done that from the start.
22 November 2015, 11:36 AM
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22 November 2015, 11:47 AM
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This country missed a trick in 1988 when bringing in the Education Act...they should have got religion out of schools at that point, just like the USA and France.
Instead, we have a law that all pupils must have 1 hour a week of religious education, and that each day should begin with an act of corporate worship.
Lunacy.
Instead, we have a law that all pupils must have 1 hour a week of religious education, and that each day should begin with an act of corporate worship.
Lunacy.
22 November 2015, 12:19 PM
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The USA may have got religion out of Schools (although they try and push it in through the back for by getting Intelligent Design taught as an alternative to Evolution in school science classes)
They just seem to have shifted it to Politics - with a choice I would rather it in schools and out of politics
Anyway on the point of the thread, a compromise would be to screen Fast & Furious at the local village church
They just seem to have shifted it to Politics - with a choice I would rather it in schools and out of politics
Anyway on the point of the thread, a compromise would be to screen Fast & Furious at the local village church
22 November 2015, 01:56 PM
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It's a difficult one. As someone who's spent his life in business, I get why the media agency would avoid controversial advertisements and to be fair their policy says it does not advertise political or religious groups. As an evangelical Christian I wish to see the Word spread and as such support the church's effort. Additionally, as someone who espouses freedom of speech, I feel uncomfortable that something like the Lord's Prayer cannot be expressed for fear of 'causing offence'. Finally, I actually think the message of the prayer is beautiful and I feel that our culture is diminished for its fading eminence. In summary, I'm undecided, hence asking for people's thoughts.
22 November 2015, 02:05 PM
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It's a difficult one. As someone who's spent his life in business, I get why the media agency would avoid controversial advertisements and to be fair their policy says it does not advertise political or religious groups. As an evangelical Christian I wish to see the Word spread and as such support the church's effort. Additionally, as someone who espouses freedom of speech, I feel uncomfortable that something like the Lord's Prayer cannot be expressed for fear of 'causing offence'. Finally, I actually think the message of the prayer is beautiful and I feel that our culture is diminished for its fading eminence. In summary, I'm undecided, hence asking for people's thoughts.
I would not be offended if this advert was shown at a cinema - I simply think that it is a little inappropriate and a waste of church money and effort.
I liken it to visiting the cinema to find myself watching a party political broadcast - wrong time, place and frame of mind.
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22 November 2015, 03:12 PM
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My view is that
1. I don't know what exactly the advert involves. If it involves telling people that 'Jesus is the ONLY way', then I can see why it's not being allowed. If it says "Jesus is OUR only way" then I can't see the problem, although it would sound a bit restricted to me. But even then, I'll accept it as others' belief.
2. This sort of policy is a product of some developed mindsets, which I do appreciate. I hope this policy is equally applicable to all faiths, not just to Chritianity. But then again, why they allow Silent Night sung by half naked Beyoncé on adverts is beyond me. Perhaps her half naked voice supersedes the thought of the religious Jesus, that's why.
3. Accepting the advert that exhibits faith, if not glorifies as the ONLY one is an act of a developed mindset, too. Therefore, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
I still need to know what's exactly in that advert before I can make a clear judgement on it. Post the link to the advert, not the link to the advert of the advert.
Also, I find this act of people finding some very small things offensive quite offensive, actually. Please take no offence of me calling 'it' 'small'. What I mean is that someone's faith need not offend me just because it exists, as long as it doesn't harm me. If it does, then I need to get myself sorted. Yes, I do agree that what that faith might consist could be an issue.
1. I don't know what exactly the advert involves. If it involves telling people that 'Jesus is the ONLY way', then I can see why it's not being allowed. If it says "Jesus is OUR only way" then I can't see the problem, although it would sound a bit restricted to me. But even then, I'll accept it as others' belief.
2. This sort of policy is a product of some developed mindsets, which I do appreciate. I hope this policy is equally applicable to all faiths, not just to Chritianity. But then again, why they allow Silent Night sung by half naked Beyoncé on adverts is beyond me. Perhaps her half naked voice supersedes the thought of the religious Jesus, that's why.
3. Accepting the advert that exhibits faith, if not glorifies as the ONLY one is an act of a developed mindset, too. Therefore, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
I still need to know what's exactly in that advert before I can make a clear judgement on it. Post the link to the advert, not the link to the advert of the advert.
Also, I find this act of people finding some very small things offensive quite offensive, actually. Please take no offence of me calling 'it' 'small'. What I mean is that someone's faith need not offend me just because it exists, as long as it doesn't harm me. If it does, then I need to get myself sorted. Yes, I do agree that what that faith might consist could be an issue.
22 November 2015, 03:26 PM
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I'd also like to add that this country stems from the faith ground known as Christianity. The venues including cinemas need not be hesitant in making a show of this faith because the landscape has become Liquorice Allsorts. Whoever finds that show offensive needs to get a life.
I still need to know what EXACTLY is there in that advert. - that's on individual level....
I still appreciate that sort of policy that cuts ALL crap with one shot. - that's on organisational level.
I still need to know what EXACTLY is there in that advert. - that's on individual level....
I still appreciate that sort of policy that cuts ALL crap with one shot. - that's on organisational level.
22 November 2015, 03:31 PM
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My view is that
1. I don't know what exactly the advert involves. If it involves telling people that 'Jesus is the ONLY way', then I can see why it's not being allowed. If it says "Jesus is OUR only way" then I can't see the problem, although it would sound a bit restricted to me. But even then, I'll accept it as others' belief.
2. This sort of policy is a product of some developed mindsets, which I do appreciate. I hope this policy is equally applicable to all faiths, not just to Chritianity. But then again, why they allow Silent Night sung by half naked Beyoncé on adverts is beyond me. Perhaps her half naked voice supersedes the thought of the religious Jesus, that's why.
3. Accepting the advert that exhibits faith, if not glorifies as the ONLY one is an act of a developed mindset, too. Therefore, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
I still need to know what's exactly in that advert before I can make a clear judgement on it. Post the link to the advert, not the link to the advert of the advert.
Also, I find this act of people finding some very small things offensive quite offensive, actually. Please take no offence of me calling 'it' 'small'. What I mean is that someone's faith need not offend me just because it exists, as long as it doesn't harm me. If it does, then I need to get myself sorted. Yes, I do agree that what that faith might consist could be an issue.
1. I don't know what exactly the advert involves. If it involves telling people that 'Jesus is the ONLY way', then I can see why it's not being allowed. If it says "Jesus is OUR only way" then I can't see the problem, although it would sound a bit restricted to me. But even then, I'll accept it as others' belief.
2. This sort of policy is a product of some developed mindsets, which I do appreciate. I hope this policy is equally applicable to all faiths, not just to Chritianity. But then again, why they allow Silent Night sung by half naked Beyoncé on adverts is beyond me. Perhaps her half naked voice supersedes the thought of the religious Jesus, that's why.
3. Accepting the advert that exhibits faith, if not glorifies as the ONLY one is an act of a developed mindset, too. Therefore, I wouldn't have any problem with it.
I still need to know what's exactly in that advert before I can make a clear judgement on it. Post the link to the advert, not the link to the advert of the advert.
Also, I find this act of people finding some very small things offensive quite offensive, actually. Please take no offence of me calling 'it' 'small'. What I mean is that someone's faith need not offend me just because it exists, as long as it doesn't harm me. If it does, then I need to get myself sorted. Yes, I do agree that what that faith might consist could be an issue.
If you click the BBC link in the first post - it takes you to the BBC story and you can watch a copy of the advert for yourself.
I actually think it is very well done - I just wouldn't want to see it at a cinema, before a film.
Cheers
Steve
22 November 2015, 03:35 PM
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Thank you, James. X
Will look at that.
22 November 2015, 04:09 PM
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I think it's a good decision, if people want to hear, sing or be involved with god of any description then they already have their places to do so.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
I and I'm pretty sure most people go to the movies for a bit of relaxation/ light entertainment/ escapism from the outside world, I don't particularly want to be subjected to a load of religious happy clapping, if I did I'd go to church.
It would seem there are more of us not interested in religion than those that are, judging by the numbers in churches or lack of, so now the church wants to start advertising, what next Jesus loves you billboards all over towns and cities?
These religious types are always pushing their way onto the rest of us, personally I have had enough of religion of all flavours, time for a anti religion uprising.
Perhaps a land grab like Israel like to do 