Sheepsplitter

What with :-
Inflation hitting 4 year high.
Pensions crisis.
Roads crisis.
Rail crisis.
Fire strikes & crisis.
Decline in service industrys (as most are being shipped off shore).
Hospitals in a mess and no signs of improvement, although money being ploughed in to them.
Sherigate.



Is the UK knackered for the long term?
Seems like it to me.

What's everyone else think?

MarkO

Yeah. It's all screwed.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Down the pan we go...........and you forgot the education crisis!
Alcazar

AnDy_PaNdY

Dunno about the rest of the country but our firm produce large diesel engines (up to 1600 BHP) and we can't make enough of them.
A lot of our suppliers are either going bust or moving to Turkey though. =/

Devil's Refugee

Tony has managed to flush us all down the bogs !
Time to abandon all hope and emmigrate is mho before we have to start forking out to save this "great" Britain

Andy Tang

iTrader: (3)

Are people finally seeing that maybe 'New' Labour is no different to old Labour??

Just need the, to print extra money now, and really screw up the economy like last time!

Yes I have every right to complain as I did vote in the last election, and no did not vote for Labour and never have!

marty_t3

Yep... we are fecked ... time to jump ship

ChrisB

And it stuff like this:

"The UK pays out more compensation claims than the rest of Europe, running up a bill of around £10bn a year, a report reveals."

"One in every 220 soldiers has made a claim, including one who sued for seeing his colleague killed on duty." WTF? [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]

AnDy_PaNdY

I'd hate to be stuck in a lifeboat with some of you chaps

johnfelstead

the single biggest hush hush, we are all screwed change this government has made is the changes to pension fund taxation. That is going to have a massive impact on this country in 20 years time.

MATTeL

Hmmm and we learnt othing from history either did we!

Yet the masses still love President Blair.

Like Andy never voted for Labour (new, middle-aged or old) in my life...

Sheepsplitter

Your right John.
Gordons Browns 'low-key' legislation will cause old age misery for millions in years to come.

Devil's Refugee

And they want to fund it all by making us work till 70 now !!!
What kind of draconian society is this ?!
Makes me fecking mad.

Africa et al isn't the Third World anymore, we are !

Sheepsplitter

Over the next few years I anticipate that you will see 'quality of life' for most UK people decline to a level that puts us back in the middle ages. How ironic that our grandfathers retired before we can. Is this Tonys answer to a bigger and better UK?

People in my industry are struggling to find work at 40, what exactly are they supposed to do for the other 30 years? We can't all work in McDonalds!!

Dave P

His Tonyness popularaty rating fell 6 points I think since cherigate, but the conservatives didn't pick up one of them.

They have to ditch IDS right now, he's about as charismatic as a bottle of tippex...

Devil's Refugee

Yep, without any serious opposition, it looks like we're doomed with Tony and his gorgeous wife () for another 4 years !

I'm not looking forward to retirement in 40 years, assuming this country is still operating.

marty_t3

I'l have turned to crime in the next 40 years, so, i'll probably be living it up in jail instead of picking up a pension and scraping by on the poverty line.

I can't see this "working for a living" thing paying of in this country anymore. We're paying out more and more every year and getting less and less in return. And it's just getting worse.

I think i'll make my first crime an assasination spree on politicians.

Bajie

Are you guys seriously saying a Tory government would treat you any better when you retire?
Not being pro or anti anything at the minute. But I don't have very fond memories of the Conservatives when they were in power.
Anyway, start flaming ...

GCollier

Well if it's so bad here, why don't you do something about it like **** off abroad? You are free to set up business or look for employment in any EU member state. The trouble is, you may find the grass at the other side of the fence isn't as green as it looks.

Any government is in a no-win situation. If it reduced taxes and cut services people would moan. If it raised taxes and improved services, people would still moan. Go have a nice long chat with your parents or grandparents, and get them to walk down memory lane if you think things in this country were so much better in the past.

Gary.

Bajie

Gary

I've just had this conversation with one of the guys here.
Bizarre ... totally agree with you.

ProperCharlie

Yeah, but just think how great it will be when we nuke saddam. Then it really will be like the good old days.

dsmith

So hang on - we live in a democracy. Part of a democracy is that we elect our politicians. Elections are all about people deciding who to vote for. Therefore if people dont like what's being done to "their" country they're entitled to post on a UK centric public BBS in order to attempt to influence peoles voting at the next democratic election.

But we should instead just shut up and p*ss of abroad ?

Deano

[Edited by dsmith - 12/17/2002 2:37:55 PM]

Bajie

Now read the other six sentences.
But he shouldn't have ****'d.

Keep it democratic and leave the swearing off the keyboard.

^Qwerty^

But the current government have raised taxes, are raising them even more, yet services get worse. Can I moan at that?
(And I didn't vote for them either)

dnb

Ok, so I'm taking this out of context a bit...

In my little corner of England, I've seen council tax go up more than 18% for 2 consecutive years. Other taxes have increased as well, yet I have less services available... The council don't collect my rubbish or provide street lamps in my road, education standards are very much in the bottom of the league tables etc...

Is this common, or have I just picked the wrong part of the country to live in?

(We do have some nice twisty roads though )

^Qwerty^

Yes.
Unless you live in the South East, nobody gives a ****.

astraboy

I'd like to see a bit more honesty. Maggie was satan. But at least we knew she was satan and she knew that we knew she was satan. We knew where we stood.
His tonyship ****s us off bigtime yet still tries to be everyones best mate, international statesman, honest down to earth family man, One man Interpol division etc,etc,etc.
Honestly? I think Saddam is more honest than tony bleurgh.
astraboy.

Dave P

Gary,

I think the issue is that Tony made a lot of promises and has failed to deliver on one of them.....

just take Education, Education, Education... at least under the conservatives we knew where we stood with GCSE's and A'levels... now no one knows what an A'level is worth. The education system is the biggest shambles ever.

Problem is the list of broken promises goes on and on and on and on and worse there is no credible opposition...

TelBoy

Is this all part of the Labour Master Plan to lull us into believing that joining Europe will be our salvation?

Or just that Tubby Brown's assessment of the economy was hopelessly optimistic at the time he made all his spending pledges?

Running a country is not easy, but this mob seem to be making a pig's ear of it by any standards. But where is the credible alternative?

Is immigration to blame? Has the rate of ageing of the population been swept under the carpet for too long?

Devil's Refugee

Oh, just read a report that Brown-skid-marks is NOT ruling out a VAT charge on house prices to reign in the deficit and stop the housing boom.

What next for our glorious "empire" ?
Darth Vader as PM ?