lardypants

ok got a few phones on ebay, on two phones have one chap mailing from indonesia wanting to complete with paypal, large amount of £600

now i know that fraud on there is happening quite a lot, but also dont wanna loose a possible sale.... what if i let him pay me in paypal, leave the funds in the paypal account and not post the goods for a couple weeks? long enough for anything to come ontop?

what would happen if is fraud? paypal just take the funds back out of my account? in which case no loss to me as will still have goods, ill just have to blag the long delivery time.

any suggestions?

BuRR

I'd use something other than Paypal.... If he's genuine, then he should have no complaints.

Chris L

LardyPants (great name )

I'd be very very suspicious. Have a look at this thread to see what I mean.

An awful lot of fraud is coming from countries like Indonesia. Also bear in mind the Paypal reputation isn't great, they only cover you for roughly the first $300 and their t&cs mean that they take little or no responsibility for transactions - pretty bloody useless really.

Chris

lardypants

yes but if i leave the dosh in the paypal account then all they will do is take it back? i can understand being trouble if i withdraw it etc

12LEE

If it's an ebay buyer from Indonesia I'd frankly not even bother hoping that it's a serious transaction and walk immediately.

Edited to add that I wouldn't even bother taking the funds and delaying shipment for the risk to the ebay rating having had fraudsters and non-payers leave -ve feedback in the past.

[Edited by 12LEE - 12/24/2002 6:14:20 PM]

Silent Monkey

If it's the usual scenario from Indonesia:
Auctions are still open.
Recently registered buyer.
"Buyer" mails asking you to close early for a very good price.
Pays by Paypal.
Requests fastest possible shipping, cost is not a problem.

Even if you take the money and leave it in your PayPal account you'll still be out of pocket WHEN the chargeback happens. You'll already have paid the Paypal commission and they will charge you £10 for taking the money back. Doesn't matter if there isn't enough in your Paypal account.

I wouldn't suggest you walk away - run

I suspect that the legitimate buyers of mobile phones on eBay from Indonesia could be counted on the fingers of a boxing glove. Ask yourself why should they want to buy from the UK when they have far cheaper markets much nearer to home.

I have absolutely nothing against the people of Indonesia in general. I have some friends who live there and they are finding it almost impossible to buy anything over the web these days as many companies won't entertain credit cards from there at all.

POC

why not just get them to transfer the funds directy to your bank account?

If they have a problem with that then walk away/hunt them down and kill them like the theiving pigs they are.

Merry xmas

P

matrix

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont have the money transferred straight into your bank they love other peoples bank accounts.......and taking money from them

dhorwich

you might have noticed on alot of ebay auctions it says.....

"NO INDONESIAN BIDDERS"...!!!!!!!!!!

It is a known fact that most of them are into fraud big time..!!

just my 2p worth

Dan

Chris L

Indonesia is fast becoming the 'Nigeria' of the Far East. Ask anyone who is involved in international banking and they will regard any payment as suspicious - just as we used to do with Nigeria. The choice is yours....

Chris