Advice required on car tax offence...
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My sisters boyfriend just came home very upset.
He's got a ticket for failure to display his tax disc.
The car was parked in a public place and a ticket was on it when he returned to it.
He had the tax disc at home (bought 31/12/02) and forgot to fit it.
The police told him that he will face a £200 fine and 3 penalty points, but I have my doubts as I thought that:-
a) Failure to display a tax disc was a fixed penalty £60 fine
b) Failure to display a tax disc is a non-pointable offence
I've searched the governments web sites and as far as I can tell I am correct in the above assumptions.
Anyone out there got experience of this offence or any 'boys in blue' who know the facts care to comment?
I think the coppers in the station were ending their shift, so they just told him the first thing that came into their heads and slammed the phone down.
He's got a ticket for failure to display his tax disc.
The car was parked in a public place and a ticket was on it when he returned to it.
He had the tax disc at home (bought 31/12/02) and forgot to fit it.
The police told him that he will face a £200 fine and 3 penalty points, but I have my doubts as I thought that:-
a) Failure to display a tax disc was a fixed penalty £60 fine
b) Failure to display a tax disc is a non-pointable offence
I've searched the governments web sites and as far as I can tell I am correct in the above assumptions.
Anyone out there got experience of this offence or any 'boys in blue' who know the facts care to comment?
I think the coppers in the station were ending their shift, so they just told him the first thing that came into their heads and slammed the phone down.
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Try asking on www.scooby.burratha.com .I think that is the correct address, its on here somewhere if not. Usually good advice from Plod on here.
Think you may be on a sticky one here, very disappointing when you have record of paying though as everyone gets distracted now and again, even the police.
Its the old story of targeting motorists
Think you may be on a sticky one here, very disappointing when you have record of paying though as everyone gets distracted now and again, even the police.
Its the old story of targeting motorists
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I know the £200 bit is true (sorry
) as I replaced my tax disk today and noticed on the bottom of the renewal thingy that it was a £200 fine ![EEK!](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/eek.gif)
(remembered as I thought it was a bit steep!)
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It's utter rubbish.The offence is dealt with by the DVLA by the issue of a form called a CLE 2/6.The officers should not and could not have issued an endorsable ticket.These can only be issued in the prescence of the driver and are only applicable to endorsable road traffic offences.
If your mate has tax then when the form arrives at DVLA sent by the Police and DVLA check that he is taxed then no further action.
FACTS.I'm a Traffic Bobby.
Paul.
If your mate has tax then when the form arrives at DVLA sent by the Police and DVLA check that he is taxed then no further action.
FACTS.I'm a Traffic Bobby.
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Thanks for all the feedback, but a particular thanks for the excellent info from Pauleds.
I just passed the info on to my sisters boyfriend and he's a much happier chappy.
Many thanks
I just passed the info on to my sisters boyfriend and he's a much happier chappy.
Many thanks
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Pauleds words ring true with me. No points fullstop. And when the form arrives at DVLA, they check to see that a VEL has been issued with no further action. BTW it's a CLE 2/8 now (combined for goods vehicles), yawn...
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Excellent news
So if I look like I'm going to get a ticket I'll just leg it then it won't be in my prescence ![Wink](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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sheepsplitter,
I got done with this about 6mths ago. Took disc off to clean car and popped out leaving it lying in the house.
Local plod spotted me on a roundabout, followed me for 5mins, then pulled me over.
They said they would report me to the DVLA for not displaying the tax and I was asked to show my insurance documents and driving license within 7 days to the nearest cop shop.
DVLA sent me a letter explaining it was an offence, but they weren't going to prosecute as their records showed I paid the road tax.
The cops were OK about things after checking the car wasn't nicked and my reason seemed genuine (nice shiny car helped). What would have really pi$$ed them off is not having insurance or an MOT, which is usually a indication with no tax disc.
Stefan
I got done with this about 6mths ago. Took disc off to clean car and popped out leaving it lying in the house.
Local plod spotted me on a roundabout, followed me for 5mins, then pulled me over.
They said they would report me to the DVLA for not displaying the tax and I was asked to show my insurance documents and driving license within 7 days to the nearest cop shop.
DVLA sent me a letter explaining it was an offence, but they weren't going to prosecute as their records showed I paid the road tax.
The cops were OK about things after checking the car wasn't nicked and my reason seemed genuine (nice shiny car helped). What would have really pi$$ed them off is not having insurance or an MOT, which is usually a indication with no tax disc.
Stefan
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Oh and another thing,
The cops said that some people put off renewing their road tax (say for 3 mths) and if they get caught, the DVLA will fine them. They said is usually just the amount of unpaid tax + a small percentage.
Stefan
The cops said that some people put off renewing their road tax (say for 3 mths) and if they get caught, the DVLA will fine them. They said is usually just the amount of unpaid tax + a small percentage.
Stefan
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I thought the offence of purely not displaying the disc was the same as not having one at all? (Probably to prevent having one disc for several cars.)
However, sounds a bit harsh, maybe worth appealing if he can prove when the tax was paid for?
[Edited by DaveD - 1/7/2003 8:55:21 PM]
However, sounds a bit harsh, maybe worth appealing if he can prove when the tax was paid for?
[Edited by DaveD - 1/7/2003 8:55:21 PM]
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