does this sound like a scam?
24 October 2003, 03:04 AM
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After putting my car up for sale on a few classified sites this morning I have just received the following email:
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Hello,
i saw your vehicle advert on the net this morning thats why i have decides to mail you.
I have read a little discription about the vehicle and i think is ok by me.
All i want to ask from you now is that is the vehicle still available for sale,what is your last price and what mode of payment do you accept.
Kindly get back to me if the vehicle is still available for sale.
Regards,
larry.
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I reckon it is, what about anyone else?
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Hello,
i saw your vehicle advert on the net this morning thats why i have decides to mail you.
I have read a little discription about the vehicle and i think is ok by me.
All i want to ask from you now is that is the vehicle still available for sale,what is your last price and what mode of payment do you accept.
Kindly get back to me if the vehicle is still available for sale.
Regards,
larry.
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I reckon it is, what about anyone else?
24 October 2003, 06:52 AM
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Probably yes - but I can't see the harm in replying with your advertised asking price and stating that you require cash. Just don't accept a personal cheque or anything else risky, and if your 'buyer' mentions anything about exporting the car, run away.
The wording is so generic and the standard of English so poor that it does sound like many of the scams floating around the 'net, but it's not one with which I'm familiar. Let us know how you get on.
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The wording is so generic and the standard of English so poor that it does sound like many of the scams floating around the 'net, but it's not one with which I'm familiar. Let us know how you get on.
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24 October 2003, 12:36 PM
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Unless I advertise something on a BB, I wont reply by e mail. If they have my phone number via the ad then they can call me if there serious. Theres too many scammers and timewasters about. If I was looking to buy something I'd call them if I had their number and not bother with delays via the net ....
Talking of suspicous e mails I had one today from Nat West bank asking for details of pin numbers and passwords
Funny thing is I dont even bank with the useless to55ers!
Nath
Talking of suspicous e mails I had one today from Nat West bank asking for details of pin numbers and passwords
Funny thing is I dont even bank with the useless to55ers!Nath
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24 October 2003, 01:08 PM
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I have had three very similar ones lately. All claim to be middle men for customers abroad. Two asked for my bank details for wire transfers.
As soon as I mail them with a contact number and ask them to ring thats the last I hear of it.
As soon as I mail them with a contact number and ask them to ring thats the last I hear of it.
24 October 2003, 10:57 PM
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That Natwest thing uses an old trick...
Note the presence of the @ in the URL.
What that means is use this part of the addy "www.natwest.com:ac=QtaiybvovpNd4T0zZPyJ" as a username to access this URL "q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3".
Note the presence of the @ in the URL.
What that means is use this part of the addy "www.natwest.com:ac=QtaiybvovpNd4T0zZPyJ" as a username to access this URL "q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3".
25 October 2003, 09:33 AM
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I am confused by your comments. The link which ChristianR has given takes you to the genuine NatWest website, which then asks you to forward the scam e-mail to them (presumably so they can see the formats being used in the scams).
Your comments suggest that the genuine site is part of the scam - could you clarify please?
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I am confused by your comments. The link which ChristianR has given takes you to the genuine NatWest website, which then asks you to forward the scam e-mail to them (presumably so they can see the formats being used in the scams).
Your comments suggest that the genuine site is part of the scam - could you clarify please?
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25 October 2003, 09:39 AM
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basically what Chris is saying is that you can put anything you want before an @ in the url..
i.e. www.thisislame.com@www.scoobynet.co.uk
If you click on that link you will go to www.scoobynet.co.uk. Most internet browsers use the information before the @ as a logon and usually password.
i.e. username
assword@www.membersonly.com
This would log you on as username with password to that site if it asked for a logon and password.
In the link I posted, as it is quite long, you would not see the full url in internet explorer, and with all the upper and lower case plus other charactors, people would just assume it is a special page or something on the natwest server, when infact it isn't.
The actual website is q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3 , as anything before the @ the internet explorer sees as a username and password.
What the clever people who own q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3 have done, is also set up a forwarder so it loads up the original natwest page and also opens its own pop-up window to enter relevant information that it steals.
i.e. www.thisislame.com@www.scoobynet.co.uk
If you click on that link you will go to www.scoobynet.co.uk. Most internet browsers use the information before the @ as a logon and usually password.
i.e. username
assword@www.membersonly.comThis would log you on as username with password to that site if it asked for a logon and password.
In the link I posted, as it is quite long, you would not see the full url in internet explorer, and with all the upper and lower case plus other charactors, people would just assume it is a special page or something on the natwest server, when infact it isn't.
The actual website is q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3 , as anything before the @ the internet explorer sees as a username and password.
What the clever people who own q90ri4.MaIl333.CoM/3/?v12Yt7mKRtZJWa3 have done, is also set up a forwarder so it loads up the original natwest page and also opens its own pop-up window to enter relevant information that it steals.
25 October 2003, 09:49 AM
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Thanks ChristianR
I think I am getting confused because I am not getting the pop-up window which you refer to - presumably its being blocked by Norton / firewall.
Thanks to you and ChrisB - something new learnt every day!
Pete The Biker
I think I am getting confused because I am not getting the pop-up window which you refer to - presumably its being blocked by Norton / firewall.
Thanks to you and ChrisB - something new learnt every day!
Pete The Biker
25 October 2003, 10:21 PM
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Have a read of http://www.pc-help.org/obscure.htm to see how the Internet can be abused. It is scary!
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