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Old 27 November 2003, 07:58 AM
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Anybody had this and had manipulation under anaesthetic or arthroscopy surgery?
Old 27 November 2003, 12:27 PM
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No-one?
Old 27 November 2003, 12:28 PM
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MUA would be the first step so go for it - arthroscopies (ouch!)
Old 27 November 2003, 12:31 PM
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I am having the MUA done..... but have read some right horror stories from people who have had it done
Old 27 November 2003, 12:45 PM
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best advice for anyone with a frozen shoulder...try out Bowen therapy..there was an article in the times last week about positive results from frozen shoulder sufferers after bowen therapy, these were verified by a medical professional (not that she could explain the results..

http://www.bowentherapists.com/BTER/technique.htm

I had an ACL reconstruction 2 years ago..had post op trouble...therapy has helped..try it may work...
Old 27 November 2003, 12:50 PM
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The Bowen Technique is unlike any other form of hands-on therapy. There is no pulling or cracking of joints, no insertion of needles and no manipulation. The technique consists of a sequence of very precise and gentle moves over muscles and soft tissue interspersed with periods of rest in order for the treatment to be absorbed. The treatment entails no searching consultation as it is holistic (treats the whole body) and it is generally a pleasant and relaxing experience with no known adverse side effects.

Always sceptical of this type of stuff but I cant see any harm being done if they use only gentle movements etc

Perhaps try this then MUA then perhaps something more interventional
Old 27 November 2003, 01:03 PM
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Scooby69 I was deeply skeptical about it..I was badgered into it by a friend and went along just t shut them up...had the treatmnt..very strange..therapist performs a small movement..then leaves the room ..come back in etc...but grudgingly it produced results..knee is way better and in general I feel healthier!!

Go along with an open mind and see what happens??
Old 27 November 2003, 01:03 PM
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I think that the damage inside my shoulder wouldn't respond to any treatment like that. Whilst most Frozen Shoulders just happen/occur, mine was caused through trauma. Have had 3 cortisone jabs so far, none have made any difference, had physio too, but it worsened after having that.

Edited to say.... don't take your eyes off a loopy GSD dog on an extendable lead

[Edited by Redkop - 11/27/2003 1:06:35 PM]
Old 27 November 2003, 01:42 PM
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Reminds me of a guy called Steven Cauth (surname sp?) who does natural healing - doesnt even touch you. Apparently the gf saw him yonks ago and just by moving his hands above her body he told her exacly what was wrong with her - spooky!
Old 27 November 2003, 03:52 PM
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Don't know about MUA, but I've had an Arthroscopy on my knee and it did the trick.
I suffered a torn cartiledge and had it sorted arthroscopically, and its fine, except on particularily cold days when it aches and gets a bit stiff. Ooh err.

I'm also on a waiting list to have my shoulder done, but not arthroscopically, its gonna be a full open procedure.

My own fault I suppose, since as a result of doing martial arts for more that half of my life, I've suffered 5 dislocations on the one shoulder! Time to go under the knife.

I totally know how you feel... shoulder problems are a complete pain in the.... well shoulder I guess!
Old 27 November 2003, 03:56 PM
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TAZMAN and talizman... confusing for us bears with very little brain...
Old 27 November 2003, 04:10 PM
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Dave, I am about 60 miles south of Liverpool, so Wokingham is a bit far to travel. But thanks for your offer of help, I will see check and see if there is a Bowen Therapist in my area, I am willing to try anything.
Old 27 November 2003, 04:19 PM
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REDkop..my knee was a full ACL reconstruction done athrothingy...

sorted the main probelm but left me with a lot of pain...

Strangly enough like Talizman I also do alot of martial arts and needed to get it fixed as I also teach them and needed the income...Bowen fixedthe probelm..sever pain in my patella and a clicking knee (very painful when clicked..)...

check out the bowen tech website ..there are a few up near you!!
Old 27 November 2003, 05:18 PM
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Have just found 3 Bowen therapists listed in my town, so will give one of them a ring
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