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Old 15 January 2004, 11:16 AM
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OK its coming, it started (ever so slightly) in Dec, over the next year, 2 years, 3 years what are peoples predictions? how high will they be by the end of 2004? will they continue to rise?

Im trying to prepare myself in advance to be 100% sure I'll be OK paying my morgage and what to expect etc... Im remorgaging at the mo and I like the idea of a one acct but just been told this is a variable thing so if I go with a 1 acct I wanna know what to expect being on a variable...

what are people expecting then? 7% max???? as high as 10% hope not
Old 15 January 2004, 11:17 AM
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if it gets to 10% we may as well start building our mud huts.
Old 15 January 2004, 11:23 AM
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It is unpredictable.....anything could happen. No one can tell you what may or may not happen. They can give an educated guess only.

If you are at all nervous, you had better stick to a fixed.
Old 15 January 2004, 11:25 AM
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Remeber, it was only as recent as 1990 they were 12%+
..and don't let anyone tell you it cannot happen again!

[Edited by imlach - 1/15/2004 11:27:24 AM]
Old 15 January 2004, 11:25 AM
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and remember the carnage that followed that...
Old 15 January 2004, 11:29 AM
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If it gets to 10% then think of the interest you'll get on your savings- swings and roundabouts.
Old 15 January 2004, 11:30 AM
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Problem is, no-one in this country has savings no more!

We are in a debt ridden disaster!

[Edited by imlach - 1/15/2004 11:30:34 AM]
Old 15 January 2004, 11:31 AM
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Just as an aside, there's an article in todays Times which says that the interest rate on loans in Japan is currently -0.3% Yes, that's minus zero point three. Effectively, people are being paid to take out loans.
Old 15 January 2004, 11:33 AM
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If it gets to 10% then think of the interest you'll get on your savings- swings and roundabouts.
However, most people have a mortgage of, say £100,000 but savings may be £10,000. To get the 'same' level of benefit from a rate rise, you need to have as much savings as mortgage (e.g. £100,000 in savings! in the example above).
Old 15 January 2004, 11:33 AM
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Tony, it's more like -1%. Madness.

Old 15 January 2004, 11:33 AM
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besides that fact that no-one has any savings, even if you did you are taxed on the interest from savings but no tax relief on your mortgage. a lose/lose situation, surely?
Old 15 January 2004, 11:33 AM
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Unfortunately, there is simply more scope for increase than decrease !

Lets hope it stays low !!!

Cheers


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Old 15 January 2004, 11:35 AM
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I do Imlach
Old 15 January 2004, 11:37 AM
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Yes, but ChrisB, you are rare these days!

Most have remortgaged the family silver to buy an Sti8 etc
Old 15 January 2004, 12:52 PM
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So nobody has any forcasts then? Im expecting it to rise but unsure what it will be. a one acct is offering 4.95% now if it rose to 7% I know I can afford the payments still but then 10% it gets quite scary.... probably be able to struggle by but it really is worrying knowing what the payments willbe, there are obviously ways round it etc but just wondering what to expect
Old 15 January 2004, 01:03 PM
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You can look at December short sterling which is essentially pricing in a rate of 4.6%. This is what the "market" expects rates to be at a the end of the year. Not precise but the best estimate you will get.

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Old 15 January 2004, 01:31 PM
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Most of what I've read shows between 4 & 5. I'm with Intelligent Finance offset which is 4.6, excellent product but thinking about going fixed.
Old 15 January 2004, 01:40 PM
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you're looking at a 5yr sterling future rate at 5.3%
Old 15 January 2004, 01:44 PM
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Ted, is that a firm price? Swaps showing 4.82-4.87...
Old 15 January 2004, 01:56 PM
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I'm seeing 4.834/4.878 for the swap but 5.2 on the dec08 future..so I estimated slightly
Old 15 January 2004, 02:27 PM
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If you are worried rates are going to 10% then a fixed rate won't save you....one day the fixed rate ends and your repayments double overnight...
A current account mortgage (used optimally) should help you clear capital more quickly..so you are less exposed to the future rate rises.
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Old 15 January 2004, 02:30 PM
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Unless you get a 25yr fixed at 6.5%......
Old 15 January 2004, 02:32 PM
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Shoooooot - what are the redemption penalties on that???
Old 15 January 2004, 02:37 PM
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Try explaining under 5 year mortgages to an American. He'd laugh at you. We're one of the few countries where life-of-the-loan mortgages aren't common...
Old 15 January 2004, 03:05 PM
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Any chance of a UK citizen getting one of those negative rate Jap loans?

Old 15 January 2004, 03:09 PM
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I think the neg rates were only available for short term lending like 2-3 months.
Old 15 January 2004, 03:10 PM
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Nope, at least a year. As i said, madness!
Old 15 January 2004, 03:13 PM
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Thought I read somewhere that the neg rate (0.03-0.06) were no more but obviously I could be wrong. I wonder how many Japs were sleeping on billions of yen rather than paying the bank to 'look after it' for them!
Old 15 January 2004, 03:16 PM
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Indeed. "Under the mattress" is a sound financial strategy in Japan right now...
Old 15 January 2004, 03:21 PM
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Bring back the good old days!!! 15% mortgage rates, 12% on your savings. Brilliant! can't wait.
P.S. Little mortgage, lots of savings!!
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