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Old 29 March 2004, 03:12 PM
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It'll be interesting to see what happens in Ireland now that smoking has been banned in all public places.

Customers of pubs etc will face a £2000 fine if caught flouting this new law.

As most people are non smokers I think it'll succeed. Be nice to come home from the pub not smelling like a stinking old ashtray as well.

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Old 29 March 2004, 03:26 PM
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Yep, I'd love to see it. I'm an ex smoker as well.

Sometimes my local is like walking into a cloud cos the f***wit bar staff don't use the a\c
Old 29 March 2004, 03:28 PM
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Yes.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:29 PM
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It's getting nearer to the day when it'll be illegal to have a poó after 6.30 pm though.

I am a non-smoker too.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:32 PM
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Yup - spent a week in New York - bliss in the bars and restaurants
Old 29 March 2004, 03:33 PM
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Can't wait for it here!
Old 29 March 2004, 03:33 PM
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They ought to stop blokes burping, f*rting and stinking of BO from pubs too then. Equally as offensive.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:34 PM
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Do a poll at the top of the thread....

Failing that, yes it should be banned.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:37 PM
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Well I am a smoker, hopefully to be giving up soon, but I dont like the way things are always being banned, and choices limited.

Smoking does bother me sometimes, I wont do it in restaurants mostly, or when i am around non smokers, and I think I am a considerate smoker, but it does really gall me when a freedom is removed.

They should ban alcohol as well, so the ********* on Wednesday night walking past my house at 3am singing "we're gonna win the league" and waking me up could be fined

I know the anti smoking lot will now start going on about "I dont want to breathe your smoke", yadda yadda. This can be applied to so many things. As I say ban alcohol, ban petrol so no-one has to breath your car fumes, ban music so I dont have to listen to other playing "their" music, the list goes on.

Not sure what will happen in Ireland - its allegedly banned in NYC, which worried me last year when i went, but people were just smoking outside - everywhere you went, people having **** outside.

Before the anti lot join in, bear this in mind - if everyone in the UK gave up tomorrow, the country would fall to its knees, you can rant on for as long as poss about the NHS paying for smokers treatment, but the tax the Gov't get from smokers far outweighs that.
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Originally Posted by Redkop
They ought to stop blokes burping, f*rting and stinking of BO from pubs too then. Equally as offensive.

Since when??







Old 29 March 2004, 03:41 PM
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Why not let the business owners choose whether they want to be a no smoking or smoking allowed premises? Problem solved...

I'd rather own a pub or whatever full of smokers than one half full of non smokers.

And while were at it Im with DW, why dont they solve the huge asthma problem the UK has by banning all motorised transport.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:42 PM
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Yep smoking serves no useful purpose, anywhere where the smoke might reach someone else it should be banned, cal
Old 29 March 2004, 03:43 PM
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Well said Jye.

Lets ban cheeseburgers as well, big lardy smelling things
Old 29 March 2004, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by currymonster
Yep smoking serves no useful purpose, anywhere where the smoke might reach someone else it should be banned, cal
Maybe to you it doesnt, some people enjoy it and should have the choice!!
Old 29 March 2004, 03:44 PM
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Ban everything someone somewhere objects to them we'll all be happy, then ban being happy
Old 29 March 2004, 03:48 PM
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Yeah, I'd like to see it banned.

Nothing worse than getting after a night out with your clothes and hair absolutely stinking of smoke.

Smokers can use the big room (outside) to smoke.
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
Maybe to you it doesnt, some people enjoy it and should have the choice!!
You only enjoy it because you're a drug addict.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:50 PM
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Spending a night in the pub with your usual non-smoking doogooders is enough to drive you to smoke.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
should have the choice!!
As should the non-smokers as to whether they breath in your exhaled smoke.

Chip.
Old 29 March 2004, 03:57 PM
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I can't wait for it to be banned
Old 29 March 2004, 04:00 PM
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Seeing that passive smoking costs the NHS dearly, as well as causing death & misery for thousands, why should the minority of the population that smoke inflict their filthy habit on the majority that don't?

And it's not about smokers' civil liberties being eroded either. After all, they have a choice of going outside to smoke. At present, the non-smoking majority don't have any choice but to inhale second hand carcinogens....
Old 29 March 2004, 04:06 PM
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Should UK ban smoking in public?
Yes. As others said the bars in the States are so much nicer free of smoke. They won't though because of the potential loss of tax revenue.
Old 29 March 2004, 04:07 PM
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I smoke but would love to see it banned.

Stinks and there is no way that others should have to breath it in and have their clothes stinking too

As for the stupid arguments like
Maybe to you it doesnt, some people enjoy it and should have the choice!!
... then do it in their own feckin space and not in other peoples faces.... surely even the most blinded smoker can see the sense in that
Old 29 March 2004, 04:18 PM
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When you see the colour of the pub walls and ceiling you wonder what its doing to your lungs dont you.

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Old 29 March 2004, 04:25 PM
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As long as the beer garden is safe, then I'm fine with it. Until winter. Make that Autumn.

DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL

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Old 29 March 2004, 04:33 PM
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I wouldn't mind seeing it banned. Having to go outside makes smoking more of an occasion and gives time to converse with fellow sinners. Mobile phones should be banned at the same time.
Old 29 March 2004, 04:34 PM
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LOL.

It would change the face of the local pub.

They'd set up a bar and a waterproof fruit machine just outside the door.
Old 29 March 2004, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
You only enjoy it because you're a drug addict.
I do actually enjoy it though as well, though i smoke rollies which are much nicer

Having said that, i am giving up for health reasons - too much to live for these days to risk it.

No-one will ever win this argument, but to completely cut off 1 group is wrong IMO.

Surely things would work with a smoking and non smoking section in pubs etc - that way everyone wins. By just cutting off one section of people what does that achieve.

I can see the point that non-smokers make, and tbh I dont smoke a great deal, and as I said I am a considerate smoker. I am more annoyed at the fact that things are starting to be "banned" everywhere.
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Originally Posted by SiPie
... then do it in their own feckin space and not in other peoples faces.... surely even the most blinded smoker can see the sense in that
Hmm, as long as they dont get legless/annoying/drunk in my space then
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There is no argument. Banning smoking isn't cutting anyone out; it's making them go elsewhere to pollute themselves and leave the non-smokers with clean air.

The smokers' argument is no stronger than a group of people who demand to burn tyres in their gardens.........


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