bin ladens truce with europe
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bin ladens truce with europe
did anyone hear the news
i said to my friend bravo a good few weeks ago, that if the west stopped killing muslims and stopped supporting our evil dictators and the israelis ,terrorism will stop or majority of it would
i said to my friend bravo a good few weeks ago, that if the west stopped killing muslims and stopped supporting our evil dictators and the israelis ,terrorism will stop or majority of it would
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As a resident in europe, it may mean less chance of an attack which is good but this move is really a calculated ploy to try and drive a wedge(sic) between the US and Europe. I mean, why won't they offer the same thing to the US if it's really about not killing muslims??? Don't they want to 'offer' the US the same chance of peace??
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just watched sky news mate
and they said coz he never had a prob with europe he only killed them when they killed muslims or occupied muslim lands
and usa basically will never be forgiven and israel, their the most hated and no truce for them and i watched bbc news and same thing their, they brought those terrorism expert guys and they said the same, yep its to drive a wedge between them too
and they said coz he never had a prob with europe he only killed them when they killed muslims or occupied muslim lands
and usa basically will never be forgiven and israel, their the most hated and no truce for them and i watched bbc news and same thing their, they brought those terrorism expert guys and they said the same, yep its to drive a wedge between them too
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Someone on here posted a quote a while ago written during the war. Something like:
"they came for the jews but i wasn't one so i stayed away, then they came for.... etc"
i'll try and find it, but i think if europe doesn't stand up for the US now, then eventually it will turn around back on us europeans and we will then have no help from the rest of the world
"they came for the jews but i wasn't one so i stayed away, then they came for.... etc"
i'll try and find it, but i think if europe doesn't stand up for the US now, then eventually it will turn around back on us europeans and we will then have no help from the rest of the world
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First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists
and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me.
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suprabeast thats a socialist saying im a socalist but religious
i aint red moses im just moses
as long as usa and israel commit atrocities they will get punished
u aint heard the story of pharoah havent u and what he did he was the superpower of its time and enslaved hebrews and tortured them and killed them and oppressed them God sent him moses , to be brought up in phaorahs own home and he brought him down to his knee;s with the grace of God
story is anyone oppress people and do such evil things will always be brought down to their knee;s happened to the romans, persians, greeks, egyptians, russians etc etc etc
its the law , what u sow u shall reap
every back action will beget a bad reaction and a good action will beget a good reaction
mate if i smile at u, their is more of a chance u will smile back or if i say hello mate u will probably say the same
if i tell u to f%*k off u will probably give me twice that back
its the law dude
i aint red moses im just moses
as long as usa and israel commit atrocities they will get punished
u aint heard the story of pharoah havent u and what he did he was the superpower of its time and enslaved hebrews and tortured them and killed them and oppressed them God sent him moses , to be brought up in phaorahs own home and he brought him down to his knee;s with the grace of God
story is anyone oppress people and do such evil things will always be brought down to their knee;s happened to the romans, persians, greeks, egyptians, russians etc etc etc
its the law , what u sow u shall reap
every back action will beget a bad reaction and a good action will beget a good reaction
mate if i smile at u, their is more of a chance u will smile back or if i say hello mate u will probably say the same
if i tell u to f%*k off u will probably give me twice that back
its the law dude
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(tongue in cheek mode) BL is just trying to flatter the Germans- some one told him about the job they did on jews last time.
How to drive a wedge btwn Europe & USA, most yanks dont even know where europe is!
How to drive a wedge btwn Europe & USA, most yanks dont even know where europe is!
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lol @ rich
but its true muslims always loved germans , always been fair to them in history mate
they was even a muslim ss waffen 13th islamic division off the ss waffen, hitlers and himmlers muslims
and true yanks dont they think europe is in disney land
but its true muslims always loved germans , always been fair to them in history mate
they was even a muslim ss waffen 13th islamic division off the ss waffen, hitlers and himmlers muslims
and true yanks dont they think europe is in disney land
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lol i know mate but its easier for me to say ss waffen
or i will have a waffle ss potato waffle
not just that were from the same blood lines, the original aryans of persia and "not" vikings
hitler tried to change it to viking norse blood which was b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s coz swastika comes from the ancestors of mines the persians and they took it round the world and including india
poor hitler was running away from his dark aryan ancestors if u ever notice the persians arent arabic of course they have some turko arabic blood but their lighter skin than the arabs most anyway except the lebanese and syrians their white arabs
http://www.feldgrau.com/13ss.html
http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/rev.../haschdare.htm
thats the islamic ottomon sword and swastika
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
hitler needed his own kamikaze's he got these and told the arabs to uprise against the british colonial rule and i will support u
but he was a user and an evil man but bosnians praise him and turks till this day
he saved bosnians from extinction from the first massacre of serbs, bosnian muslims wanted hitler to take over bosnia and make it a part of greater germany and serbs will never have a chance to massacre them and bosnians took their revenge on them when they became a part of the waffen ss
man i thought we woz talking about osama
well i like my birds eye waffles
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
this is the tattoo some palestinians have its the waffen ss 13th handschar
the one with the sword is the one palestinains have , some of them
or i will have a waffle ss potato waffle
not just that were from the same blood lines, the original aryans of persia and "not" vikings
hitler tried to change it to viking norse blood which was b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s coz swastika comes from the ancestors of mines the persians and they took it round the world and including india
poor hitler was running away from his dark aryan ancestors if u ever notice the persians arent arabic of course they have some turko arabic blood but their lighter skin than the arabs most anyway except the lebanese and syrians their white arabs
http://www.feldgrau.com/13ss.html
http://www.choiquehobbies.com.ar/rev.../haschdare.htm
thats the islamic ottomon sword and swastika
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
hitler needed his own kamikaze's he got these and told the arabs to uprise against the british colonial rule and i will support u
but he was a user and an evil man but bosnians praise him and turks till this day
he saved bosnians from extinction from the first massacre of serbs, bosnian muslims wanted hitler to take over bosnia and make it a part of greater germany and serbs will never have a chance to massacre them and bosnians took their revenge on them when they became a part of the waffen ss
man i thought we woz talking about osama
well i like my birds eye waffles
http://emperors-clothes.com/bosnia/svijet.htm
this is the tattoo some palestinians have its the waffen ss 13th handschar
the one with the sword is the one palestinains have , some of them
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It all makes sense except this bit (from the Guardian website news story):
"But it offered no such deal with the United States or Israel. "President Bush and leaders in his sphere, big media institutions, and the United Nations [...] all of them are a fatal danger to the world, and the Zionist lobby is their most dangerous and difficult member, and we insist, God willing, on continuing to fight them," the speaker said."
So the UN, which has passed umpteen resolutions condemning Israel, and refused to sanction the invasion of Iraq... is an ENEMY?
"But it offered no such deal with the United States or Israel. "President Bush and leaders in his sphere, big media institutions, and the United Nations [...] all of them are a fatal danger to the world, and the Zionist lobby is their most dangerous and difficult member, and we insist, God willing, on continuing to fight them," the speaker said."
So the UN, which has passed umpteen resolutions condemning Israel, and refused to sanction the invasion of Iraq... is an ENEMY?
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probably coz all they do is condemn and do nothing else but have a coffee and talk a lil sh1te
u.n are nothing and it showed when cowboy bush went at it with the sundance kid tony blair
u.n are nothing and it showed when cowboy bush went at it with the sundance kid tony blair
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Not seen the story but not too worried about backing the yanks up. could be time for us to align ourselves more with Europe anyway.
Maybe if they had a different president I would feel differently but quite happy to see Bush take some ****.
I reckon UK getting off US's shoulder would get US rather worried.
Gotta fight terrorism still though but maybe more as a united Europe.
Maybe if they had a different president I would feel differently but quite happy to see Bush take some ****.
I reckon UK getting off US's shoulder would get US rather worried.
Gotta fight terrorism still though but maybe more as a united Europe.
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Do you really think we can just take Bin Laden's word for it though? Just let our guard down because he says he will play nice?
What would happen next time we did something that he didn't like? Would he stand up and say, "Ooh, I didn't like that. I'm not your friend anymore, and I'm going to attack you next chance I get."
Its just a clever piece of propaganda (like everything he says) and I would take it with a pinch of salt.
What would happen next time we did something that he didn't like? Would he stand up and say, "Ooh, I didn't like that. I'm not your friend anymore, and I'm going to attack you next chance I get."
Its just a clever piece of propaganda (like everything he says) and I would take it with a pinch of salt.
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LOL @ Google ads for "Understanding Islam"
I think we are trying to look at this again from a "western" POV, and thus will fail.
Say tomorrow the UN/Europe/US would find a peaceful acceptable solution for the Palestinian cause, would that end all terrorism ?
If your answer was yes, think again.
The cat is somehow out of the bag, and no political act will get it back in.
There are a myriad of extreme muslims groups right now, who consider all western people evil, barbarian, women with a mini-skirt are ******, etc... They don't need "BL" to fund them etc... but will happily carry out attacks in his name.
This sadly has nothing to do with Islam in general, as throughout history it has been one of the more peaceful religions. A lot of this started during the Afghan war against the USSR.
If you read the interviews with people around BL etc... they won't stop for nothing until a global Islam world would be created. They will use "Europe" if that helps them in their faith, but will drop it if it suits them as well. Infidels, scum we are.
Interestingly, they find Bush less of a barbarian than other leaders as at least "his acts come from his faith". Blimey.
I'll look up the name of the guy they interviewed in Pakistan if you want, but his words were truly amazing.
The fat lady certainly hasn't sung yet.
I think we are trying to look at this again from a "western" POV, and thus will fail.
Say tomorrow the UN/Europe/US would find a peaceful acceptable solution for the Palestinian cause, would that end all terrorism ?
If your answer was yes, think again.
The cat is somehow out of the bag, and no political act will get it back in.
There are a myriad of extreme muslims groups right now, who consider all western people evil, barbarian, women with a mini-skirt are ******, etc... They don't need "BL" to fund them etc... but will happily carry out attacks in his name.
This sadly has nothing to do with Islam in general, as throughout history it has been one of the more peaceful religions. A lot of this started during the Afghan war against the USSR.
If you read the interviews with people around BL etc... they won't stop for nothing until a global Islam world would be created. They will use "Europe" if that helps them in their faith, but will drop it if it suits them as well. Infidels, scum we are.
Interestingly, they find Bush less of a barbarian than other leaders as at least "his acts come from his faith". Blimey.
I'll look up the name of the guy they interviewed in Pakistan if you want, but his words were truly amazing.
The fat lady certainly hasn't sung yet.
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Originally Posted by juan
Not seen the story but not too worried about backing the yanks up. could be time for us to align ourselves more with Europe anyway.
...I think the french and germans will just go running.
We need the USA in case of any future events because I don't think Europe will ever do anything useful to support us
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one thing even the enemies of osama know, he is a man of his word as long as the pact doesnt get broken
he is more honest than our so called leaders of the world like bush and tony and ***** like the saudi regime, sharon, mubarak
he is a nasty man i agree but he is not a liar like the so called leaders i mentioned
he is more honest than our so called leaders of the world like bush and tony and ***** like the saudi regime, sharon, mubarak
he is a nasty man i agree but he is not a liar like the so called leaders i mentioned
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bin laden should come out and show himself - get his martydom and place in heaven sorted out sooner rather than later.
Much like the hooded muppets (probably robbers/rapists/child molesters Saddam released before the yanks arrived) who have just shot some poor Itlalian guy. What's with the disguises? Surely they aren't scared of being recognised and shot/arrested?
Odd. Maybe I'm just not understanding this whole martyrdon thing?
Much like the hooded muppets (probably robbers/rapists/child molesters Saddam released before the yanks arrived) who have just shot some poor Itlalian guy. What's with the disguises? Surely they aren't scared of being recognised and shot/arrested?
Odd. Maybe I'm just not understanding this whole martyrdon thing?
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Originally Posted by moses
one thing even the enemies of osama know, he is a man of his word as long as the pact doesnt get broken
he is more honest than our so called leaders of the world like bush and tony and ***** like the saudi regime, sharon, mubarak
he is a nasty man i agree but he is not a liar like the so called leaders i mentioned
he is more honest than our so called leaders of the world like bush and tony and ***** like the saudi regime, sharon, mubarak
he is a nasty man i agree but he is not a liar like the so called leaders i mentioned
If we take this supposed honest mans word and release ourselves from our most powerful ally, and lay down our defenses; we would be an open target. Not something I would want to be.
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i like u too mate
and what porkies he says what he means even if its evil, he does say it and doesnt lie about his feeling, i call that truthful, he never hated the west one time he even loves arsenal footie club till this day lol ,he only started hating the west after what they did in the muslim world and went to the holy land arabia and their support for the israeli killing machine
he didnt always hate the west , he is a terrorist but less terrorist than the usa and israel and russia
im suprised i thought he may have included britain with the usa but he didnt, maybe its coz of the arsenal football team
and what porkies he says what he means even if its evil, he does say it and doesnt lie about his feeling, i call that truthful, he never hated the west one time he even loves arsenal footie club till this day lol ,he only started hating the west after what they did in the muslim world and went to the holy land arabia and their support for the israeli killing machine
he didnt always hate the west , he is a terrorist but less terrorist than the usa and israel and russia
im suprised i thought he may have included britain with the usa but he didnt, maybe its coz of the arsenal football team
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terrorist yes a coward no
what about bush and wolfowitz and rumsfeld and tony what r they and sharon
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no their cowards and hide behind nice houses and get their butchers to go and bomb innocent civilians
see what the usa do is what we see as terrorism
he fought the war and aint a coward and he wouldnt go and do suicide bombs coz he is their master mind
brb mate customers in shop
see what the usa do is what we see as terrorism
he fought the war and aint a coward and he wouldnt go and do suicide bombs coz he is their master mind
brb mate customers in shop
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here juan
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/
made by white christians and not muslims, have a look at the site
and also mate pls dont get me wrong im always misunderstood i dont support terrorism and when tony and bush say
either u are with us or the terrorists well i aint with neither of the terrorists
my muslim bros has a problem of explaining his words but i will explain it from my own mouth and i hope u understand
juan what happened in 9/11 was an atrocity , i will use the simple words that some may understand but i dont mean no harm, i dont see people as a colour but as humans, i have bros and sisters who are every colour of this world, yellow, black, white , bronze and etc etc.
when a white mans country gets attacked they call it an atrocity, when the white christian gets back what he has done to the coloured man or other different people, they call it terrorism but when the white christian leaders of the world commit terrorism and butchering of other nations and milking their lands and stealing their treasures and corrupting their leaderships its all fine and no one bats an eye lid when innocent muslims get bombed or the yellow man gets bombed in veitnam or innocent civilians in muslim lands get wiped out its all fine
but soon as those people give it back to the whiteman all hell breaks loose, one law for the whiteman and a different law for the others, do what u want to the others but not a scratch on the whiteman or his country.
over 3000 people got martyred at the twin towers but 5 thousand people got marytred a month in iraq via sanctions by the usa and as u know about the depleted uranium
and america cried when they lost 3000 or so, but when it happens to the middle east, no probs their "evil" so do what u will and they know jack **** about the foreign policy of their country
the lifeline of israeli killing machine and mubaraks torture brigades in egypt and turkish aggression against the kurds
hmm usa backs turks all way through, they done the same to the kurds as saddam did
usa ***** with the policies of our country, they like sticking their noses in other peoples countries
u should read a book called 9/11 by noam chomsky one of my hero's and also john pilgers new rulers of the world
what usa practice is terrorism and its sad people in the west wear blinkers when it comes to what their countries are doing but soon as the black, yellow or muslim does something all hell breaks loose.
our country the united kingdom, sells arms to israel and gives the bandages to the palestinians
http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/
made by white christians and not muslims, have a look at the site
and also mate pls dont get me wrong im always misunderstood i dont support terrorism and when tony and bush say
either u are with us or the terrorists well i aint with neither of the terrorists
my muslim bros has a problem of explaining his words but i will explain it from my own mouth and i hope u understand
juan what happened in 9/11 was an atrocity , i will use the simple words that some may understand but i dont mean no harm, i dont see people as a colour but as humans, i have bros and sisters who are every colour of this world, yellow, black, white , bronze and etc etc.
when a white mans country gets attacked they call it an atrocity, when the white christian gets back what he has done to the coloured man or other different people, they call it terrorism but when the white christian leaders of the world commit terrorism and butchering of other nations and milking their lands and stealing their treasures and corrupting their leaderships its all fine and no one bats an eye lid when innocent muslims get bombed or the yellow man gets bombed in veitnam or innocent civilians in muslim lands get wiped out its all fine
but soon as those people give it back to the whiteman all hell breaks loose, one law for the whiteman and a different law for the others, do what u want to the others but not a scratch on the whiteman or his country.
over 3000 people got martyred at the twin towers but 5 thousand people got marytred a month in iraq via sanctions by the usa and as u know about the depleted uranium
and america cried when they lost 3000 or so, but when it happens to the middle east, no probs their "evil" so do what u will and they know jack **** about the foreign policy of their country
the lifeline of israeli killing machine and mubaraks torture brigades in egypt and turkish aggression against the kurds
hmm usa backs turks all way through, they done the same to the kurds as saddam did
usa ***** with the policies of our country, they like sticking their noses in other peoples countries
u should read a book called 9/11 by noam chomsky one of my hero's and also john pilgers new rulers of the world
what usa practice is terrorism and its sad people in the west wear blinkers when it comes to what their countries are doing but soon as the black, yellow or muslim does something all hell breaks loose.
our country the united kingdom, sells arms to israel and gives the bandages to the palestinians
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OBL is a PoS
OBL is a piece of dog turd. Nothing heroic, big, clever or honest about murdering innocents. I would like to see his home town, family and their friends completely obliterated. Wiped off the face of the planet even if they pretend to oppose him.
Sometimes two wrongs do make a right.
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Sometimes two wrongs do make a right.
Just my two rupees worth.
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why the innocent members of his family suresh
if u do something should i butcher your whole family and friends who have nothing to do with it
and yes if he deserves to die so do most world leaders who are terrorists
and butkus pls dont say its to do with religion coz it aint
what stalin and others like him pol pot was to do with athiesm lol was it or not , do u really think tony or bush and his cronies are real christians or even putin or others that do the same stuff
evil is in all forms and these wars are about greed and not religion
or war against occupation
if u do something should i butcher your whole family and friends who have nothing to do with it
and yes if he deserves to die so do most world leaders who are terrorists
and butkus pls dont say its to do with religion coz it aint
what stalin and others like him pol pot was to do with athiesm lol was it or not , do u really think tony or bush and his cronies are real christians or even putin or others that do the same stuff
evil is in all forms and these wars are about greed and not religion
or war against occupation