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Old 17 June 2004, 03:21 PM
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Unhappy In court this morning...

For those who have read my wing mirror collision threads - the outcome is...

5 points
£65 Fine
£35 Costs.

11 points now - Road Angel here I come...
Old 17 June 2004, 03:24 PM
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5 points!

The world truly has gone mad.
Old 17 June 2004, 03:27 PM
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Shocking isn't it. Got away with the minimum too - could have been given 10 ...
Old 17 June 2004, 03:27 PM
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what?!?!

Did you have legal representation?

I thought we had established the following:

1) No one was injured, hence no need to report to police
2) It wasn't your fault anyway
3) There was no damage

So how they hell did you end up with 5 points? That's disgraceful - phone the papers.
Old 17 June 2004, 03:34 PM
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the other bloke involved apparently had £150 of damage (so I found out today), but then again, I got my repairs quoted yesterday and it came to £35 + £23 VAT and £100 for labour - £158 altogether, for an alloy and a wing mirror touched up.

Didn't get a solicitor, although wished I had one this morning even if it was just for backup.

According to the guidelines, I've got off lightly... the judge accepted my explanation that I thought a clash of wing mirrors didn't require police involvement.

Narks me that last year the girlfriend had someone pull out on her and rip the back bumper off, she phoned the police and was told "we're not interested if no-one's been injured". A little consistency would have been nice but the system won't accept that it can get it wrong...
Old 17 June 2004, 03:38 PM
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I still don't understand what offence you have actually been done for!
Old 17 June 2004, 03:40 PM
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Failing to report an accident wasnt it?

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Old 17 June 2004, 03:44 PM
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Fecking ridiculous - knock for knock ot should have been and heard no mroe about it. And how much did it cost the taxpayers for this to be heard in court.

fecking fecking fecking stooooopid!
Old 17 June 2004, 03:54 PM
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It is ridiculous. Are we really legally expected to report any accident to the police? When someone rammed me from behind we exchanged details but neither of us informed the police. Should I hand myself in?

Why has the bloke who caused the accident not been done for something?

Why are cases like this wasting the courts' time?

Why did the bloke make such a fuss over it when he could have got off without paying for your damage?

You seem to be taking this surprisingly well. I would be on the war path.
Old 17 June 2004, 04:16 PM
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I plan on getting in touch with police to see if any charges were brought against him such as due care & attention or better still - dangerous driving - because if i hadn't reacted as quickly as i did and been in car without ABS then it would have been a head-on collision.

I am on the war path - if the other bloke got away with nothing then i will not be a happy hippy. I just hope he has full no claims and doesnt have them protected, the to55er.

5 points is a bit harsh though, when you're innocent and just wanted to let it drop... ;(
Old 17 June 2004, 04:22 PM
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That's really harsh. Ring the Sun they love stories like this.
Old 17 June 2004, 04:30 PM
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Not wanting to put ideas into your head but if I was the victim of such injustice I would be working out the true value of the 5 points, the fines and the heat ache to me. I would then divide that up pro rata between those responsible and would be looking to "extract" similar value, through one way or another.....
Old 17 June 2004, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
When someone rammed me from behind we exchanged details but neither of us informed the police.
Well as long as he's old enough you don't need to. As for coming out on Scoobynet well what can I say ... should have guessed as your dislike of ***** is well documented on here

tiggers.
Old 17 June 2004, 04:42 PM
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Absolutely PMSL @ tiggers Never noticed that one...

Had a bad omen on tuesday - my GT4 save game got corrupted and I lost all my licenses - was convinced someone was trying to tell me something...
Old 17 June 2004, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Well as long as he's old enough you don't need to. As for coming out on Scoobynet well what can I say ... should have guessed as your dislike of ***** is well documented on here

tiggers.
LOL!

Shame on you tiggers! I would have hoped that the deliberate and smutty misinterpretation of such an unchallenging connotation would have been beneath someone of your self professed calibre!

Either way I can assure you that in this particular situation it was preferable being the rammed rather than the rammer, not that you need telling I'm sure!
Old 17 June 2004, 04:55 PM
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Gutted for you mate.....

insurers dont like the ole' "failing to report", "failing to stop".........But couldve been worse, I got more points than that for the same offence back in 1988....
Old 18 June 2004, 11:05 AM
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5 points is an unneccessary and disgraceful penalty. It is all wrong that insufficient weight was applied to the circumstances of the accident and that it was not your fault in the first place. Sounds like they handed out as many points as they could without banning you. I think the police should have shown a bit more discretion too.

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Old 18 June 2004, 11:19 AM
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Did you plead Not Guilty. You could always appeal over the verdict and\or fine.
Old 18 June 2004, 11:27 AM
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That is just plain stupid .... 5 points what ever next. Should have beaten the bloke up at the time, probably have got less !!
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