106rallye

Ok this is for no reason apart from a bit of intrest and me thinking a bit too much! but could wind up comments between Scots, English etc and vice versa legally be classed as racist or not? I.E. are the English Scottish Welsh etc legally different races?

Cheers all

Andy

Jye

Dont be bloody stupid.

106rallye

I don't see why its stupid it is just out of interest? lots of people on other threads are calling each other racist re comments about football etc and it just got me thinking as to weather its 'legally' the case thats all? I'm not about to start taking people to court over it!!

Andy

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

do you count yourself as english then? from your name i presume your from scotland? if that is the case would you happily wonder around scotland wearing your england football shirt with pride?

unclebuck

There *is* a line. Don't cross it and it's just banter.... on the other hand....

UB

Leslie

Just bin the "PC" bit, and have a bit of harmless fun as UB says. No need to take it that seriously, it was never looked at like that a few years ago.

Les

jasey

It's a good Question.

I've lived in Scotland for 15 years and have had strangers come up to me (2 in total) and scream in my face "**** of home you English ****". Now If I were black and had the "equivalent" it would be racist - however as I'm white it would probably be treated by the police in Scotland as a polite suggestion from a worried citizen.

Banter is one thing - the above is racist - Even if "English" isn't a race - Surely ?

BTW This is very much the exception - Most sweaty socks are actually quite nice

mad_dr

From dictionary.com:

Racism Discrimination or prejudice based on race

Race A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race


So yes, by definition - that is racist.

mynickers

Regionalist maybe

jasey

Is this too . Better be careful. I can see me getting into trouble - imagine the scene - The wife's trying on some new shoes and I say to her "God those sweaty socks are a ******* disgrace and should be burned" and the shop assistant calls the Police.

STi wanna Subaru

iTrader: (1)

I have a Scots mate and today I think he is a kunt and will tell him so......... he's also giving me a massive amount of stick. I've insulted his family, his history, his country............................ and it means nothing! At the end of the day he is a top lad but it's just banter and I wouldn't have it any other way!

mynickers

LOL!

GaryK

lmao @ jasey!

Yes STI I think thats exactly the point if its someone you know well and they understand the context the comments are made in then no harm but if its someone you don't know then you dont really know if the comments are jibes or blatant insults.

messiah

I used to work with a few scots - and the best bit about seeing the national football team lose was winding them up about it.

A couple of good mates are scottish, and it's all just friendly banter to me - but screaming at a complete stranger "go home you english c**t" is out of order.

jasey

Like most things it's all about context. If you are a lone Scot in a sea of English to$$ers all winding you up constantly about your ****e football team and ugly women then it could be considered racist abuse - if it's just a load of nerds exchanging un-pleasantries on the web - well that just ScoobyNet .


ps the Words "Scot" and "English to$$ers" can be inter-changed to any combination

eg.
"Welsh tw@t" and "Sheep"

Spoon

After seeing the posts from the Scots and Welsh on the football I'd firmly say it shows more than a hint of hatred to the English, probably brought on by a strong feeling of inferiority, but nonetheless clearly expressed.

Jye

Spoon I doubt it's inferiority, as a Scots I feel very good about myself and my nation, I'm proud to be a Scot and when abroad I always feel that people love the Scots and Scotland. I think perhaps the anti-English sentiment on SN is more football related than anything else. After all it only seems to come out during WC and Euro time. For what it's worth I find it hard to believe that based on a few posts people actually think every Scot is a biggoted gimp, I have more hatred for the local Scottish neds than I'll ever have for any one nation. You just have too look at old firm games to see that Scots hate each other more than anything and religion has just as big a part to play as nationality.

moses

yes were all a different race we scots are human


just kidding we all are

Jye

Morning moses

Spoon

That's the way it should be and that's the way you see it, others here haven't shown that unfortunately.
I don't think anyone actually thinks every Scot is anti English at all. There are a few here that have already expressed their shame in the posts.

What it does do though without a doubt, is give a few (in their minds) an excuse to retaliate in whatever way they may see fit.

TelBoy

I *cannot* admit i agree with Spoon!!

But i do.

Spoon

Tel- From what I can see we sing from the same hymn sheet on every post, so I can't see the need for your reticence.

TelBoy

On this topic, indeed we do.

jasey

Tim / Hun B@st@rds (delete as appropriate) .


... In your Glasgow slums

Spoon

Go on, let yourself go, you know you want to.

Apart from the whole muppet thing I haven't seen any other opposing posts.

Marky-San

Agree mostly with spoon's comments. However, do agree with Jye's sensible logic.

As a Scot I dont hate the other cultures (except americans cause I work for them ).

It's quite insulting reading some of the sweeping generalisations posted. Irrelevant if your black/white/english/welsh/american/alien...etc if you insult me I'd pan your face in if I thought you meant it.

The moronic ned culture is how I think alot of this age old bitterness still survives.

Anyway, I'm fix my japanese car, using english part supplier, delivered by a scots courier company

TelBoy

I think i might go and buy a new hat.

Spoon

Marky-San- Your post changed, now I agree with it!!

moses

morning jye

rooney is the next pele, my **** hahahahahahaha