Trucks banished to the left lane
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Trucks banished to the left lane
Wahey - AT LAST!!!! Common sense is finally being applied.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Wahey - AT LAST!!!! Common sense is finally being applied.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
Wahey - AT LAST!!!! Common sense is finally being applied.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4065085.stm
Bigger holdups
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Originally Posted by comic cuts
A14 as well please! Fed up of 56.1 mph overtaking that takes miles!
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I'm well pleased with this. About the only thing that winds me right up on the motorway are lorry races. Appologies to all lorry drivers who are now going to have to allow a few more minutes for thier journeys.
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Originally Posted by S.B.
Seeing as you seem to know whats best. What happens when you get an old codger plodding along at 40 mph in the slow lane?
Bigger holdups
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Don't forget that selfish overtaking (by which I mean overtaking with a minimal speed differential) causes congestion and slows the trucker's journey, too.
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Originally Posted by tuscan57
wot about all the other mindless idiots that sit in the middle lane........... bout time they were shot.......
There's an interesting pattern developing recently. Instead of the old idea of widening roads, which itself causes months of misery and ends up with the hoggers just moving right one lane anyway, we're seeing a series of initiatives by the Highways Agency to deal with congestion by a 'soft' (i.e. no new building) approach:
1) The trial of "Don't hog the middle lane" and "Keep left when not overtaking" messages on matrix signs the other month
2) The trial of slow-vehicles-must-keep-left on that notorious hill in the West Country (where caravanners and boaters would slow everyone down with their overtaking) over August Bank Holiday
3) This initiative on Jn 10-11 of the M42
Perhaps the HA is finally realising that you can deal with congestion by other means. What next? Lane-hoggers being pulled, fined and given points? I hope so!
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Originally Posted by quicksprint
The tw*ts that hog the middle lane of an empty motorway are the ones they need to sort out............or make undertaking legal
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Originally Posted by quicksprint
The tw*ts that hog the middle lane of an empty motorway are the ones they need to sort out............or make undertaking legal
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Originally Posted by S.B.
Seeing as you seem to know whats best. What happens when you get an old codger plodding along at 40 mph in the slow lane?
Bigger holdups
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..... and thats great
So pi55ed off with crawling for 10 miles only to find that theres two trucks level with each other doing 50mph
Minimum speed for motorway cars should be 50mph. Coppers to re-calibrate for this and point the gun at the inside lane.
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Originally Posted by ThrustSSC
For years we've all been forced to travel 30mph slower than we wanted by truckers
70-56=14 yes?
30mph
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Having an HGV licence I think it's unfair as the vast majority of us truckers are professional drivers unlike most car drivers who's motorway driving can be a lot more dangerous the trucks.
This may also be a ploy to force truckers onto the underused M6 Toll road which most days is almost empty.
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This may also be a ploy to force truckers onto the underused M6 Toll road which most days is almost empty.
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What an utterly stupid idea.
You are now going to significantly increase the amount of trucks in the inside lane, who now cannot pull over to let new traffic join the carriage way, so all of you thinking you are going to have a nice clear journey, think again, it's going take you forever to get on to the motorway, and the lorries will bunch up nicely and stop you getting off if you do actually manage to get on.
Add this to under powered trucks that when laden can loose 10 mph plus when going up a hill they are going slow many others down. This will reduce the amount of deliveries that can be done in a day thus increasing delivery costs and increasing the price of just about everything you buy.
Marvellous!
You are now going to significantly increase the amount of trucks in the inside lane, who now cannot pull over to let new traffic join the carriage way, so all of you thinking you are going to have a nice clear journey, think again, it's going take you forever to get on to the motorway, and the lorries will bunch up nicely and stop you getting off if you do actually manage to get on.
Add this to under powered trucks that when laden can loose 10 mph plus when going up a hill they are going slow many others down. This will reduce the amount of deliveries that can be done in a day thus increasing delivery costs and increasing the price of just about everything you buy.
Marvellous!
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Originally Posted by Chip
Having an HGV licence I think it's unfair as the vast majority of us truckers are professional drivers unlike most car drivers who's motorway driving can be a lot more dangerous the trucks.
This may also be a ploy to force truckers onto the underused M6 Toll road which most days is almost empty.
Chip
This may also be a ploy to force truckers onto the underused M6 Toll road which most days is almost empty.
Chip
This week alone, I've been chopped up at least a dozen times by lorries who are desperate to get in front of the truck in front, only to take several miles (or in one instance 6 miles) to pull back in. I understand the momentum issues but the selfish nature in which this happens will lead to the inevitable retaliation by car drivers to simply bunch up so that lorries cannot overtake and carve everyone else up.
Before we move on to the ubiquitous " we need lorries " argument why can't we have a joined up transport policy and shift HGVs to greater night usage of our motorway network?
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Originally Posted by Flatcapdriver
Before we move on to the ubiquitous " we need lorries " argument why can't we have a joined up transport policy and shift HGVs to greater night usage of our motorway network?
I'd prefer a limiter override to be honest. A button you can press that dis-engages the limiter for say 30 seconds that can be used so many times a day and allows the driver to go up to 65mph. This would allow them to overtake without causing as much disruption to other drivers.
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You are now going to significantly increase the amount of trucks in the inside lane, who now cannot pull over to let new traffic join the carriage way, so all of you thinking you are going to have a nice clear journey, think again, it's going take you forever to get on to the motorway, and the lorries will bunch up nicely and stop you getting off if you do actually manage to get on.
...................... and congrats on 3,000 posts (when you reply)
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Olly, just throw a few hundred 3 pointers and £120.00 for undue care and attention for tailgaiting that'll sort that problem out
...................... and congrats on 3,000 posts (when you reply)
...................... and congrats on 3,000 posts (when you reply)
AFAIK they haven't devised a camera that works for tailgaiting so that one isn't going to work
TYVM BTW
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BTW a good solution to the problem could be to spend all the money raised and saved from the motorist and plough into reviving our rail services. I dont mean for public but for commercial wares.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
BTW a good solution to the problem could be to spend all the money raised and saved from the motorist and plough into reviving our rail services. I dont mean for public but for commercial wares.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
And they can't have night deliveries because the people that live near to the store have complained about the noise.
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
BTW a good solution to the problem could be to spend all the money raised and saved from the motorist and plough into reviving our rail services. I dont mean for public but for commercial wares.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
The big problem with transporting by rail is that you have to use trucks to get the goods to the railhead, and from the railhead to the end destination. This adds an additional 2 loading / unloading operations to the transportation with the increased costs and potential for damage in to the process. You will never get direct rail transport of goods back, the best you will get is transporting the whole truck on a train similar to how the chunnel works and transport through the Alps and such
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Thats okay, just operate the same way that we dealt with it years ago
Bulk freight by train to the nearest point and then lorries from there to the destination, like i said, worked years ago, why not now?
No one has said it will be easy but you can bet your life things will only get worse over time.
If i was going from our house to Manchester 15 years ago it would take 30 minutes tops. Now if i left at the same time, that journey would be 1 1/2 hours. Thats not extra cars on the road, thats single lane for everything other than a sixteen wheeler. The other two lanes are lorries, neck and neck, fooking everyone up
Bulk freight by train to the nearest point and then lorries from there to the destination, like i said, worked years ago, why not now?
No one has said it will be easy but you can bet your life things will only get worse over time.
If i was going from our house to Manchester 15 years ago it would take 30 minutes tops. Now if i left at the same time, that journey would be 1 1/2 hours. Thats not extra cars on the road, thats single lane for everything other than a sixteen wheeler. The other two lanes are lorries, neck and neck, fooking everyone up
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Originally Posted by Buzzer
Y'know the rail service, that thing that, that bitch Thatcher completely fcuked up years ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/2804441.stm
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1963 has no resembelance to the 80's
If it was identified then, then why wasn't the rail network adapted for commercial use. It was still operating in the 80's and with a bit more thought and foresight could've been a great solution to congestion on the roads.
Seems to work in other countries doesn't it.
Frankly if posting something up relating to 1963 is the best you can do then i dont think i need History lessons
If it was identified then, then why wasn't the rail network adapted for commercial use. It was still operating in the 80's and with a bit more thought and foresight could've been a great solution to congestion on the roads.
Seems to work in other countries doesn't it.
Frankly if posting something up relating to 1963 is the best you can do then i dont think i need History lessons