The Abyss
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The Abyss
I finally managed to watch this film from start to finish last night, and i was bored witless all the way through. It seemed very slow until the alien lifeform as the strange water arrived. Micheal Biehns fight with Ed Harris also seemed confusing. In my opinion when Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonios charactor would not have been revived that long after taking in so much water!
I also read that the breathing with liquid scene was actually real and the mice really did experience it, which led to some versions of the film being cut due to vetinary complaints.
The ending with the aliens just seemed cheap and rushed to me, and reminded me of the simpsons episode where they think theres an alien but it turns out to be Mr Burns on medication!
All in all one very long winded and confusing under water sci-fi farce!
I also read that the breathing with liquid scene was actually real and the mice really did experience it, which led to some versions of the film being cut due to vetinary complaints.
The ending with the aliens just seemed cheap and rushed to me, and reminded me of the simpsons episode where they think theres an alien but it turns out to be Mr Burns on medication!
All in all one very long winded and confusing under water sci-fi farce!
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agree, the abyss is a bit shmoo.There was a similar, more recent film that as I remeber was much better, I seem to remeber either sigourney weaver or the bird out "stakeout" starring in it. what was it called? - this will bug me now
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In my opinion when Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonios charactor would not have been revived that long after taking in so much water!
The cold water increases the chances of reviving someone without permanent brain damage, but the associated chilling from having cold water inside and outside the body would probably bring on hypothermia - throwing another spanner in the works.
Good film though i thought
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Superb film IMHO. The scene with the rat wasn't actually cut, but re-framed so as not to show the rat in distress being held under water. There are some regions of DVD which have the unchanged version.
As for the ending, was it the Directors Cut you saw. The theatrical release was heavily cut and didn't show the warnings given by the aliens that if we didn't "put away childish things" that they would seriously teach us a lesson. It was only the good nature of "Bud" that swayed them to give us another chance.
As for the drowning, FFS, it's a film. Allow them some poetic license to generate cinematic tension
As for the ending, was it the Directors Cut you saw. The theatrical release was heavily cut and didn't show the warnings given by the aliens that if we didn't "put away childish things" that they would seriously teach us a lesson. It was only the good nature of "Bud" that swayed them to give us another chance.
As for the drowning, FFS, it's a film. Allow them some poetic license to generate cinematic tension
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
As for the drowning, FFS, it's a film. Allow them some poetic license to generate cinematic tension
yeah you could pick holes in it but you can do that with most films
Still a top film
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Check out the DC Marc. The film can seem a little pointless without the extra stuff. Don't get me wrong, if you found it slow and boring then simply making it longer probably won't make you instantly love this film, but it gives the film a meaning and a proper end.
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they filmed The Abyss in the cooling tanks of a nuclear power station which was never commissioned. The water was therefore ultra filtered and pure, hence the good visibility under water
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they filmed The Abyss in the cooling tanks of a nuclear power station which was never commissioned. The water was therefore ultra filtered and pure, hence the good visibility under water
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A very patchy film. Cameron's tendancy towards over-sentimentality comes through a lot, but then so does his masterful use of imagery. The aliens are too damned cute so there's no question that they must be nice guys, but the two drowning scenes are terrific (the second is Harris effectively drowning on dry land when they fill his suit up with the breathing fluid. At its worst, annoying; at its best, terrific. And it's good to see a) Harris playing a hero, and b) Beihn playing a villain (and yes, I understand it's not that simple).
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_Japan
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they filmed The Abyss in the cooling tanks of a nuclear power station which was never commissioned. The water was therefore ultra filtered and pure, hence the good visibility under water
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they filmed The Abyss in the cooling tanks of a nuclear power station which was never commissioned. The water was therefore ultra filtered and pure, hence the good visibility under water
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One of my all time fave films....
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The DC made the film make sense to me. It is one of my big favorites.
However, I would say it requires the full on dark room, well set up display and good surround sound system. It really does make the film as much of it runs on atmosphere and emotion.
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However, I would say it requires the full on dark room, well set up display and good surround sound system. It really does make the film as much of it runs on atmosphere and emotion.
Ian
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Armageddon:
Is it just me or are Armageddon and The Abyss very similar in story lol!
Not storyline tho!
Is it just me or are Armageddon and The Abyss very similar in story lol!
Not storyline tho!
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excellent film.
have loved it for what seems like hundreds of years now.
anyone who doesn't agree is plainly talking through their abyss
have loved it for what seems like hundreds of years now.
anyone who doesn't agree is plainly talking through their abyss
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Sorry Marc! This one gets a big thumbs up from me too!
I can totally understand why anyone wouldn't like this film though. I loved it from the moment i saw it at the cinema when i was a teenager. I left the cinema in awe.
The DC dvd is worth it for the extras alone. The 'making of' documentaries are excellent. What the actors endured to make the movie definitely gives you a deeper appreciation of the film and a great sense of respect for the people involved.
The reviving scene is just one of those suspend disbelief moments which i believe is forgivable on the basis of the sheer brilliance of the preceding drowning scene. Literally chilling!
But yeah, everyone who sees it says 'As if!!!!'
I can totally understand why anyone wouldn't like this film though. I loved it from the moment i saw it at the cinema when i was a teenager. I left the cinema in awe.
The DC dvd is worth it for the extras alone. The 'making of' documentaries are excellent. What the actors endured to make the movie definitely gives you a deeper appreciation of the film and a great sense of respect for the people involved.
The reviving scene is just one of those suspend disbelief moments which i believe is forgivable on the basis of the sheer brilliance of the preceding drowning scene. Literally chilling!
But yeah, everyone who sees it says 'As if!!!!'
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Originally Posted by corradoboy
Superb film IMHO. The scene with the rat wasn't actually cut, but re-framed so as not to show the rat in distress being held under water. There are some regions of DVD which have the unchanged version.
As for the ending, was it the Directors Cut you saw. The theatrical release was heavily cut and didn't show the warnings given by the aliens that if we didn't "put away childish things" that they would seriously teach us a lesson. It was only the good nature of "Bud" that swayed them to give us another chance.
As for the drowning, FFS, it's a film. Allow them some poetic license to generate cinematic tension
As for the ending, was it the Directors Cut you saw. The theatrical release was heavily cut and didn't show the warnings given by the aliens that if we didn't "put away childish things" that they would seriously teach us a lesson. It was only the good nature of "Bud" that swayed them to give us another chance.
As for the drowning, FFS, it's a film. Allow them some poetic license to generate cinematic tension
I watched it on Sky myself the other night - I thought the SE had a different beginning which started with the Submarine's accident, IIRC the original version started with the ship in the storm...
or am I just being a little geek?
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Little Geek, messiah AFAIK the DC and TC both start with the sub accident (which is superb in surround )
Might watch it today, as I refuse to venture out into the madness of Xmas shopping. Not without a hatchet anyway Then again, if my NMW agency waller temporary Asian postie hasn't nicked my R1 LOTR ROTK EE, that may arrive today and pigs might fly
Might watch it today, as I refuse to venture out into the madness of Xmas shopping. Not without a hatchet anyway Then again, if my NMW agency waller temporary Asian postie hasn't nicked my R1 LOTR ROTK EE, that may arrive today and pigs might fly
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The SEE or ROTK isn't as good as the previous 2 Special editions IMHO, although still very enjoyable. There's seems to be quite a few chapter's that are noted as being unchanged but still have extra's even if it's just 1 line of dialogue that refer's to something in one of the additions.
The point where you have to swap discs is a bit poor IMHO - the second disc starts with the end of the soundtrack from disc 1...
The point where you have to swap discs is a bit poor IMHO - the second disc starts with the end of the soundtrack from disc 1...
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