Yeah because that would be justice
14 January 2005, 12:33 PM
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FOR F$CKS SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!
Can EVERYBODY PPPLEEEEEEAAAASSEEEEE vote Conservative!!!!!!
That is an absolute joke. just cos labour are the party of the peasant doesn't mean high earners should suffer.
A Mars bar is 30p, irrespective of what you earn.
I beg the question, why f$cking bother earning more.
God I'm pissed off.
Can EVERYBODY PPPLEEEEEEAAAASSEEEEE vote Conservative!!!!!!
That is an absolute joke. just cos labour are the party of the peasant doesn't mean high earners should suffer.
A Mars bar is 30p, irrespective of what you earn.
I beg the question, why f$cking bother earning more.
God I'm pissed off.
14 January 2005, 12:37 PM
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So that's the rich that the government have pissed off now.
Are there any groups left to really annoy?
Time to work out how much I can rake-in on benefits for doing fek-all rather than working
Are there any groups left to really annoy?
Time to work out how much I can rake-in on benefits for doing fek-all rather than working
14 January 2005, 12:55 PM
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It's rediculous
I'm guessing it will mean that someone who is considered better off will pay more for a lesser crime than someone who is worse off will for a major one, if you know what I mean
I'm guessing it will mean that someone who is considered better off will pay more for a lesser crime than someone who is worse off will for a major one, if you know what I mean
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14 January 2005, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RB170
It's rediculous
I'm guessing it will mean that someone who is considered better off will pay more for a lesser crime than someone who is worse off will for a major one, if you know what I mean
I'm guessing it will mean that someone who is considered better off will pay more for a lesser crime than someone who is worse off will for a major one, if you know what I mean
Words can't describe how pissed off this makes me.
It's a blatant vote winner - most of the country are pikeys so ppikeys will love this.
14 January 2005, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by boxst
Hello
I heard this, and wondered if it will influence the Police's decision to prosecute: i.e. target obviously affluent people as the fine will be greater.
Steve.
I heard this, and wondered if it will influence the Police's decision to prosecute: i.e. target obviously affluent people as the fine will be greater.
Steve.
I do resent the fact that as a normally law abiding citizen, if i do 80 on a motorway I get a bigger slap than a serial offender.
14 January 2005, 01:11 PM
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What's the problem. Are you guys actually defending law breakers? I thought everyone here wanted more severe punishments for crimes.
For sure there are better ways to do things but I don't really care as these new rules won't affect me as I don't break the law. And if I ever did, I'd know what the risks are. At the moment the risks aren't that great for many people so they chance it.
For sure there are better ways to do things but I don't really care as these new rules won't affect me as I don't break the law. And if I ever did, I'd know what the risks are. At the moment the risks aren't that great for many people so they chance it.
14 January 2005, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
What's the problem. Are you guys actually defending law breakers? I thought everyone here wanted more severe punishments for crimes.
For sure there are better ways to do things but I don't really care as these new rules won't affect me as I don't break the law. And if I ever did, I'd know what the risks are. At the moment the risks aren't that great for many people so they chance it.
For sure there are better ways to do things but I don't really care as these new rules won't affect me as I don't break the law. And if I ever did, I'd know what the risks are. At the moment the risks aren't that great for many people so they chance it.
Draco - It's the principle.
14 January 2005, 01:14 PM
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Excellent idea!!
The pain of the penalty should be the same however wealthy you are - or whats the point of fines???
Another SUPERB Labour policy!!
Some just don't 'Get-It' yet do they?? The Tories are finished, no good bleeting and crying!!
Pete
The pain of the penalty should be the same however wealthy you are - or whats the point of fines???
Another SUPERB Labour policy!!
Some just don't 'Get-It' yet do they?? The Tories are finished, no good bleeting and crying!!
Pete
14 January 2005, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MattW
I do resent the fact that as a normally law abiding citizen, if i do 80 on a motorway I get a bigger slap than a serial offender.
Pete
14 January 2005, 01:17 PM
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Excellent idea!!
The pain of the penalty should be the same however wealthy you are - or whats the point of fines???
Another SUPERB Labour policy!!
Some just don't 'Get-It' yet do they?? The Tories are finished, no good bleeting and crying!!
Pete
The pain of the penalty should be the same however wealthy you are - or whats the point of fines???
Another SUPERB Labour policy!!
Some just don't 'Get-It' yet do they?? The Tories are finished, no good bleeting and crying!!
Pete
14 January 2005, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by goonasuk
Think the point is why should one person be fined more cos they earn more... a crime is a crime and should carry its penalty not be different for different people.
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14 January 2005, 01:19 PM
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it should be the absolute opposite.
the pikeys should pay the most!!!
Chavs should pay almost as much,
I wonder what the figures are for criminal earnings (in reality) in relation to income, chavs need money for special brew and skins, pikeys need money for dags food and a new caravan.
so they rob.
what are current stats. for middle to high earners committing these sort of crimes
the pikeys should pay the most!!!
Chavs should pay almost as much,
I wonder what the figures are for criminal earnings (in reality) in relation to income, chavs need money for special brew and skins, pikeys need money for dags food and a new caravan.
so they rob.
what are current stats. for middle to high earners committing these sort of crimes
14 January 2005, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
it should be the absolute opposite.
the pikeys should pay the most!!!
Chavs should pay almost as much,
I wonder what the figures are for criminal earnings (in reality) in relation to income, chavs need money for special brew and skins, pikeys need money for dags food and a new caravan.
so they rob.
what are current stats. for middle to high earners committing these sort of crimes
the pikeys should pay the most!!!
Chavs should pay almost as much,
I wonder what the figures are for criminal earnings (in reality) in relation to income, chavs need money for special brew and skins, pikeys need money for dags food and a new caravan.
so they rob.
what are current stats. for middle to high earners committing these sort of crimes
Classic.
14 January 2005, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
what are current stats. for middle to high earners committing crimes
Pete
14 January 2005, 01:24 PM
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without intent it most surely would be mans laughter?
what about the lack of tax, mot or insurance that the lesser classes are so keen on these days?
been in a scrape with anyone who isnt insured?
sure changes your perspective in a hurry.
Andy
what about the lack of tax, mot or insurance that the lesser classes are so keen on these days?
been in a scrape with anyone who isnt insured?
sure changes your perspective in a hurry.
Andy
14 January 2005, 01:24 PM
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I think in principle it is ok.
The point of fining people is to deter them from doing stuff again. There is also an element of punishment involved.
Person 1 gets caught doing 50 in a 30 - fined £300
Person 2 gets caught doing 50 in a 30 - fined £300
Person 1 is a millionaire, Person 2 makes millionaires shortbread.
If we are using fines as a punishment / to deter this will not affect the millionaire in the slightest.
How is this fair?
The point of fining people is to deter them from doing stuff again. There is also an element of punishment involved.
Person 1 gets caught doing 50 in a 30 - fined £300
Person 2 gets caught doing 50 in a 30 - fined £300
Person 1 is a millionaire, Person 2 makes millionaires shortbread.
If we are using fines as a punishment / to deter this will not affect the millionaire in the slightest.
How is this fair?
14 January 2005, 01:28 PM
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Person 1 earns the national average of £35k - 50 in a 30 = £300 fine
Person 2 earns, earns lets say a modest £100k - 50 in a 30 = £900 fine
That IS fair!!!
If I was fined £300 I would moan but it wouldn't really matter to me ..... £900 would hurt more and make me REALLY sure I didnt speed again!!
Its so simple, so fair, thats I am amazed at the lack of common sense from some!?
Pete
Person 2 earns, earns lets say a modest £100k - 50 in a 30 = £900 fine
That IS fair!!!
If I was fined £300 I would moan but it wouldn't really matter to me ..... £900 would hurt more and make me REALLY sure I didnt speed again!!
Its so simple, so fair, thats I am amazed at the lack of common sense from some!?
Pete
14 January 2005, 01:29 PM
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More like if you don't want the fine, don't vote labour!
Clown!Pete