Blairs fault again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16 January 2005, 07:27 PM
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Blairs fault again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taken from todays Telegraph:
Yet another Tory MP leaving the party to join Labour. Of course Blair is to blame for all of this for if he wasn't so good at his job we might have a load of missfits running the country, ie The Conservatives, where will it end? Will there be any Tories left in government? Further on in the article it mentions that a poll concluded that in the next general Election, the Tories will actually have 2 fewer MPs elected than the last election!
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"A senior Conservative MP today announces that he is defecting to the Labour Party because he believes that Tony Blair, not Michael Howard, should form the next government for the good of the country.
Robert Jackson, the MP for Wantage and a former higher education minister under Margaret Thatcher, revealed his decision to The Telegraph, claiming that a victory for Mr Howard at the general election would mean "certain harm" for Britain.
Robert Jackson emphasises his criticism of Michael Howard
In a move that will rock the Conservative Party and its leader, Mr Jackson said that he had decided to quit because the Tories had "dangerous" views on Europe, "incoherent" policies on public services, and had "wobbled" on Iraq. Most damaging for Mr Howard, he said that the party "deserved better leadership".
Mr Jackson, 58, wrote last night to the chairman of his Oxfordshire constituency informing him of his decision. In a withering two page critique of the national party, he said: "It is in the country's best interest that Tony Blair rather than Michael Howard should form the next government.""
Robert Jackson, the MP for Wantage and a former higher education minister under Margaret Thatcher, revealed his decision to The Telegraph, claiming that a victory for Mr Howard at the general election would mean "certain harm" for Britain.
Robert Jackson emphasises his criticism of Michael Howard
In a move that will rock the Conservative Party and its leader, Mr Jackson said that he had decided to quit because the Tories had "dangerous" views on Europe, "incoherent" policies on public services, and had "wobbled" on Iraq. Most damaging for Mr Howard, he said that the party "deserved better leadership".
Mr Jackson, 58, wrote last night to the chairman of his Oxfordshire constituency informing him of his decision. In a withering two page critique of the national party, he said: "It is in the country's best interest that Tony Blair rather than Michael Howard should form the next government.""
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16 January 2005, 07:29 PM
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John Redwoods dismal display on the last Question Time is a good idea of what the Tories stand for these days 
16 January 2005, 07:50 PM
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I suspect many ex Tories are waiting with baited breath for the new kid on the block, the natural opposition to Labour, the only man who can save the country.........
Kilroy!
The man who makes many granny pants drip The permatanned egomaniac is the ideal leader for disillusioned tories
Kilroy!
The man who makes many granny pants drip
The permatanned egomaniac is the ideal leader for disillusioned tories
16 January 2005, 08:12 PM
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No, No peter were all still here, just having a larf at you lot of Labour Luvvies.
Oooh Tony your so great, we love you Tony, I want your babies Tony
Chip
Oooh Tony your so great, we love you Tony, I want your babies Tony
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16 January 2005, 08:37 PM
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Indeed Chip, we love Tony - he is the greatest leader the country has had in 55 years!!
As will be shown in the future history books .... and where will you appear in those books? NOWHERE!
Pete
As will be shown in the future history books .... and where will you appear in those books? NOWHERE!
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16 January 2005, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Indeed Chip, we love Tony - he is the greatest leader the country has had in 55 years!!
As will be shown in the future history books .... and where will you appear in those books? NOWHERE!
Pete
As will be shown in the future history books .... and where will you appear in those books? NOWHERE!
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16 January 2005, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yep your right. He'll be in the history books alright. For making a total mess of what used to be a great country.
Chip
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Methinks there's a lot of blinker wearers out there
16 January 2005, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yep your right. He'll be in the history books alright. For making a total mess of what used to be a great country.
Chip
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16 January 2005, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Funny how anything bad is blamed on the legacy of the Tories yet anything good is purely down to New Labour.
Chip
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The Tories destroyed this great country ... Labour are fighting tooth and nail to regain its position in the world - and they are doing a damned good job!!
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16 January 2005, 10:04 PM
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Remember this recent poll Pete. No vote rigging like in the London mayoral elections either. A true poll.
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...light=election
Chip
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthrea...light=election
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16 January 2005, 10:13 PM
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Or a more idependent, monitored one:-
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_s...1_11_times.htm
And your point being???
Pete
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_s...1_11_times.htm
And your point being???
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16 January 2005, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Funny how anything bad is blamed on the legacy of the Tories yet anything good is purely down to New Labour.
Chip
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Basically hit the nail on the head. Generally the Tories of old had an on balance record for privatising national monoploies and union control, which i the main was for the good, if you forget about railways and going overboard on the unions.
Although seemingly middle class orientated party Labour have introduced many reforms that at the time were slated by business and Tories alike, minimum wage being one of them, but which are endorsed by all sides now.
Look at any area of the ecomony or country you like and youll see it in a better state now than in 1997, economy, poverty gap, healthcare,education, general wealth, etc etc etc
Go down to the betting shop tomorrow and put £1000 on Michael Howard winning the next election
(BTW accuse Blair of spin doctoring, what do you think Howards real last name is )Conservatives in the current guise are history, which is a shame as there should be a strong opposition party. Basically they haven't learnt the lessons as to why they were binned 8 years ago, and have tried to rehash the 'legacy' they left the country last time, whatever that is
In short youve never had it so good
Enjoy it before brown takes over 
16 January 2005, 10:19 PM
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Re the poll result, as I said above put your bet at your local bookmakers, theyll gladly take your money and laugh you out the door
Can't wait til the next election
Can't wait til the next election
16 January 2005, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Or a more idependent, monitored one:-
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_s...1_11_times.htm
And your point being???
Pete
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_s...1_11_times.htm
And your point being???
Pete
Yet another Tory MP leaving the party to join Labour.
the others being......???
16 January 2005, 10:32 PM
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Pretty Close??? Har Har Har Har don't make me laugh!!
Labour will be a clear 10 points ahead on Polling Day, Tories will finish 3rd (Liberals are targetting Tory seats!!) teeeee heeeeee
Tories are finished!!
Bring on the Election - lets put these idiots in their place for another 5 years!!
Pete
Labour will be a clear 10 points ahead on Polling Day, Tories will finish 3rd (Liberals are targetting Tory seats!!) teeeee heeeeee
Tories are finished!!
Bring on the Election - lets put these idiots in their place for another 5 years!!
Pete
16 January 2005, 10:39 PM
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Peter Temple-Morris
Shaun Woodward
Mr Massow
Three there after just a quick search, haven't listed the ones going to the liberals from conservatives, or meps.
Shaun Woodward
Mr Massow
Three there after just a quick search, haven't listed the ones going to the liberals from conservatives, or meps.
16 January 2005, 10:49 PM
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16 January 2005, 10:52 PM
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Indeed, after listening to all the to55ers on here - you would think that Labour and Blair would be rocked out of power!!
Every proper opinion survey shows otherwise - Blair is trusted more than any other leader .... Labour is trusted more than any other party!!
Long live Labour, may Blair go on, and on, and on ,,,,,,,, the majority want it that way!!
Pete
Every proper opinion survey shows otherwise - Blair is trusted more than any other leader .... Labour is trusted more than any other party!!
Long live Labour, may Blair go on, and on, and on ,,,,,,,, the majority want it that way!!
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