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07 May 2005, 09:15 AM
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N.I.P advice please
I have just recieved a n.i.p through the door stating i have been caught by a mobile camera doing 81 mph on a 70 stretch dual carriagway last weekend.The form is asking for the details of the driver at the time of the incident,however i was with a friend in the vehicle and as we were on a long journey and on strange roads we were sharing the driving and aren't sure who was driving.A mate said i should just ignore the letter,but i'm not so sure,also if i get in touch with the police will they be able to send a copy of the photo so we can find out who was driving?
Any help or advice appreciated!
Any help or advice appreciated!
07 May 2005, 10:51 AM
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07 May 2005, 12:52 PM
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Some countys have the picture, certificate of calibration, the NIP and everything else on their websites. If the NIP is served correctly from one of these, you're unlikely to get away with it IMHO. They've closed all the loopholes and delays it seems. Where were you caught?
Edit: If you genuinely can not identify the driver, you are required to provide a list of the potential drivers and state so when returning the form. If you fail to do anything, they can prosecute for failing to provide the info - it is spelled out on the form.
Edit: If you genuinely can not identify the driver, you are required to provide a list of the potential drivers and state so when returning the form. If you fail to do anything, they can prosecute for failing to provide the info - it is spelled out on the form.
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07 May 2005, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trucker Ted
I have just recieved a n.i.p through the door stating i have been caught by a mobile camera doing 81 mph on a 70 stretch dual carriagway last weekend.The form is asking for the details of the driver at the time of the incident,however i was with a friend in the vehicle and as we were on a long journey and on strange roads we were sharing the driving and aren't sure who was driving.A mate said i should just ignore the letter,but i'm not so sure,also if i get in touch with the police will they be able to send a copy of the photo so we can find out who was driving?
Any help or advice appreciated!
Any help or advice appreciated!
Of course you could make some **** and bull up that you lent your car to a visitor of the country who was at another address. They will get into contact with the other address, who can then claim the person has subsequently left brittain again. It depends how badly you need to avoid the points on your lisence.
07 May 2005, 02:12 PM
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I'm 21 years old and have been driving, on my own (without mummy) for 2 years now!! And with all that experience, I would say, "Throw it in the bin and hope for the best"
Sticking your head in the sand isn't an option!
Decide who can take the points without worry - split the fine, £30 each.
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07 May 2005, 02:46 PM
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if you are a complete retard...throw it in the bin.
otherwise write and say you dont know who was driving...write that on the NIP
they will return it and say..."fill it in with a name...you should know who was at the wheel"
write back...seperate letter....and say "ok....i will take the points to keep things simple...but before i change the NIP to that effect can you just confirm its ok to tell a white lie on the NIP just to get this dealt with easily"
they will write back and say forget it.
otherwise write and say you dont know who was driving...write that on the NIP
they will return it and say..."fill it in with a name...you should know who was at the wheel"
write back...seperate letter....and say "ok....i will take the points to keep things simple...but before i change the NIP to that effect can you just confirm its ok to tell a white lie on the NIP just to get this dealt with easily"
they will write back and say forget it.
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07 May 2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
if you are a complete retard...throw it in the bin.
otherwise write and say you dont know who was driving...write that on the NIP
they will return it and say..."fill it in with a name...you should know who was at the wheel"
write back...seperate letter....and say "ok....i will take the points to keep things simple...but before i change the NIP to that effect can you just confirm its ok to tell a white lie on the NIP just to get this dealt with easily"
they will write back and say forget it.
otherwise write and say you dont know who was driving...write that on the NIP
they will return it and say..."fill it in with a name...you should know who was at the wheel"
write back...seperate letter....and say "ok....i will take the points to keep things simple...but before i change the NIP to that effect can you just confirm its ok to tell a white lie on the NIP just to get this dealt with easily"
they will write back and say forget it.
hence why I now have 3 points 
I didn't think they were able to do this but they did 
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07 May 2005, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
I got caught speeding while driving my Dads car not long ago, got the NIP through and I tried all of the above and they wrote back and said 'we will issue the points to the vehicles registered keeper hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did
Matt
hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did Matt
i didnt say it would work every time
just that its better than the stupid "bin it " idea!
07 May 2005, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
I got caught speeding while driving my Dads car not long ago, got the NIP through and I tried all of the above and they wrote back and said 'we will issue the points to the vehicles registered keeper hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did
Matt
hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did Matt
Is there anything in law that stops you registering your car in your pets name? Or in your kids name?
07 May 2005, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Scot123
Is there anything in law that stops you registering your car in your pets name? Or in your kids name?
07 May 2005, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
You might come unstuck when you try to get your pet goldfish to talk to the insurance company on the phone
Yeah but if the registered keeper does not need to be the owner, can you not insure a car if you're not the registered keeper? Never tried so don't know.
07 May 2005, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
AFAIK you have to be the registered keeper to insure a car? Not sure though......
07 May 2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
AFAIK you have to be the registered keeper to insure a car? Not sure though......
) the woman at the ins co told me that anyone can insure a vehicle for their use, but the registered keeper must be a named driver on the policy.
07 May 2005, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Patt@firstime
I got caught speeding while driving my Dads car not long ago, got the NIP through and I tried all of the above and they wrote back and said 'we will issue the points to the vehicles registered keeper hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did
Matt
hence why I now have 3 points I didn't think they were able to do this but they did Matt
The Law, according to D Blunkett.
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
When I came to reinsure my classic car (86 XR4x4) the woman at the ins co told me that anyone can insure a vehicle for their use, but the registered keeper must be a named driver on the policy.
) the woman at the ins co told me that anyone can insure a vehicle for their use, but the registered keeper must be a named driver on the policy.
07 May 2005, 07:11 PM
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I would say it is down to them to prove who was driving if you are unable to say who was at the place and time that they say.
Don't ignore the nip though, just write back and tell them that you do not know as you said and dont accept it if they try to con you by threats or incorrect statements. The burden of proof is their responsibilty.
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Don't ignore the nip though, just write back and tell them that you do not know as you said and dont accept it if they try to con you by threats or incorrect statements. The burden of proof is their responsibilty.
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