Feral Gangs .....
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Feral Gangs .....
When are we going to regain the streets??
When will some gang get taken down by a community??
It only needs one gang to get 'sorted out' and there will be many others taken out.
I know the news glorifies it all, papers cause a frenzy about 'slapping' and generate loads of copycat incidents .............. but, it seems that these kids are just running wild and out of control.
When they are caught, fine their parents a weeks benefits - might do the job??
Pete
When will some gang get taken down by a community??
It only needs one gang to get 'sorted out' and there will be many others taken out.
I know the news glorifies it all, papers cause a frenzy about 'slapping' and generate loads of copycat incidents .............. but, it seems that these kids are just running wild and out of control.
When they are caught, fine their parents a weeks benefits - might do the job??
Pete
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Fine the parents 2 weeks benefits/wages. And yes, I am a parent and see nothing wrong with this, bit of parental responsibility never hurt anyone.
At weekends get the ******* out cleaning the streets, removing graffiti, cleaning ponds, rivers, lakes.
If they're at school, they do extra work at school in the evenings, with tests every Friday. Fail the test, you're back for another week. At weekends out doing the above.
At weekends get the ******* out cleaning the streets, removing graffiti, cleaning ponds, rivers, lakes.
If they're at school, they do extra work at school in the evenings, with tests every Friday. Fail the test, you're back for another week. At weekends out doing the above.
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Originally Posted by Vegescoob
It's the future. Get used to it.
Ain't no current Politician going to change it.
Ain't no current Politician going to change it.
There was a gang of yobs a few years back when I lived up in Macclesfield that were terrorising their local community and despite local representations to the council and police - F'all was done (too busy putting up speed traps probably) It came to a head one evening when the men of the local community took the law into their own hands and overpowered the lead yob, stripped him and tied him to a lamp-post on one of the main arterial routes into Macc.
It got into the local rag, with photos. Didn't hear from him much after that !
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".......... we are going to be hard on crime blah blah blah...."
Dont see any of this yet, unless its speeding and then only by certain members of the population.......
Dont see any of this yet, unless its speeding and then only by certain members of the population.......
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Mrs Leslie says that not only should they be birched, but that they should also bring back the stocks.
At least we could all get our own back on the evil *******.
Fine the parents and make them pay for their children's vandalism too.
Les
At least we could all get our own back on the evil *******.
Fine the parents and make them pay for their children's vandalism too.
Les
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So I take it everyone agrees with 'punishment beatings' that are handed out in Belfast for antisocial behaviour?
First offence - beating with hurls, baseball bats and iron bars
Second offence - shot through the knee caps
Third offence - 6 pack (shot through knees, wrists and ankles - apparently they make you put your wrists over your knees to save bullets)
While I broadly agree with the sentiment, there are two problems. The first is that it doesn't make any difference, either as a deterrent or a punishment (otherwise there would be no need to do it any more) and second is that the 'victim' then gets a large compensation payout from the govt
First offence - beating with hurls, baseball bats and iron bars
Second offence - shot through the knee caps
Third offence - 6 pack (shot through knees, wrists and ankles - apparently they make you put your wrists over your knees to save bullets)
While I broadly agree with the sentiment, there are two problems. The first is that it doesn't make any difference, either as a deterrent or a punishment (otherwise there would be no need to do it any more) and second is that the 'victim' then gets a large compensation payout from the govt
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Ho hum...........is this the same PSLewis who urged us all to vote Labour as they would do/had done such a good job? And the same PSLewis who tells anyone caught speeding that they are breaking the law, so they deserve all they get?
And now he wants vigilante gangs to curb the youth of today?
Alcazar
And now he wants vigilante gangs to curb the youth of today?
Alcazar
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Ho hum...........is this the same PSLewis who urged us all to vote Labour as they would do/had done such a good job? And the same PSLewis who tells anyone caught speeding that they are breaking the law, so they deserve all they get?
And now he wants vigilante gangs to curb the youth of today?
Alcazar
And now he wants vigilante gangs to curb the youth of today?
Alcazar
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That's the truth of it !!
There was a gang of yobs a few years back when I lived up in Macclesfield that were terrorising their local community and despite local representations to the council and police - F'all was done (too busy putting up speed traps probably) It came to a head one evening when the men of the local community took the law into their own hands and overpowered the lead yob, stripped him and tied him to a lamp-post on one of the main arterial routes into Macc.
It got into the local rag, with photos. Didn't hear from him much after that !
There was a gang of yobs a few years back when I lived up in Macclesfield that were terrorising their local community and despite local representations to the council and police - F'all was done (too busy putting up speed traps probably) It came to a head one evening when the men of the local community took the law into their own hands and overpowered the lead yob, stripped him and tied him to a lamp-post on one of the main arterial routes into Macc.
It got into the local rag, with photos. Didn't hear from him much after that !
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
So I take it everyone agrees with 'punishment beatings' that are handed out in Belfast for antisocial behaviour?
First offence - beating with hurls, baseball bats and iron bars
Second offence - shot through the knee caps
Third offence - 6 pack (shot through knees, wrists and ankles - apparently they make you put your wrists over your knees to save bullets)
While I broadly agree with the sentiment, there are two problems. The first is that it doesn't make any difference, either as a deterrent or a punishment (otherwise there would be no need to do it any more) and second is that the 'victim' then gets a large compensation payout from the govt
First offence - beating with hurls, baseball bats and iron bars
Second offence - shot through the knee caps
Third offence - 6 pack (shot through knees, wrists and ankles - apparently they make you put your wrists over your knees to save bullets)
While I broadly agree with the sentiment, there are two problems. The first is that it doesn't make any difference, either as a deterrent or a punishment (otherwise there would be no need to do it any more) and second is that the 'victim' then gets a large compensation payout from the govt
im not having a pop at you, i spent 4 years in ulster and im aware what happens there...im not saying its right, but how do you stop these little b*stards...?! everyone has a right to live safely...
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Originally Posted by IPKIS
National Service for the little *******
3 years duration no exceptions
that would sort the little ******* out
3 years duration no exceptions
that would sort the little ******* out
National service for ******* after their 16th birthday. i.e. They accumulate 'points' for bad behaviour based on age and offence until they are 16. If they've got enough points at that points, they win an expenses paid trip to "see the world"
J.
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Originally Posted by pslewis
When are we going to regain the streets??
When will some gang get taken down by a community??
It only needs one gang to get 'sorted out' and there will be many others taken out.
I know the news glorifies it all, papers cause a frenzy about 'slapping' and generate loads of copycat incidents .............. but, it seems that these kids are just running wild and out of control.
When they are caught, fine their parents a weeks benefits - might do the job??
Pete
When will some gang get taken down by a community??
It only needs one gang to get 'sorted out' and there will be many others taken out.
I know the news glorifies it all, papers cause a frenzy about 'slapping' and generate loads of copycat incidents .............. but, it seems that these kids are just running wild and out of control.
When they are caught, fine their parents a weeks benefits - might do the job??
Pete
simple: when YOUR useless government - and the civil service & police force it has disgracefully politicised and hamstrung - ditches its socially-corrosive, trendy islington thinktank PC dogma and starts protecting the victims of crime rather its perpetrators.
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Originally Posted by Holy Ghost
simple: when YOUR useless government - and the civil service & police force it has disgracefully politicised and hamstrung - ditches its socially-corrosive, trendy islington thinktank PC dogma and starts protecting the victims of crime rather its perpetrators.
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Originally Posted by brihoppy
im sure we can come to a compromise...?! dont tell me youre the type of person who would blame society and have them rehabilitated with a month on safari or at disneyworld...?
im not having a pop at you, i spent 4 years in ulster and im aware what happens there...im not saying its right, but how do you stop these little b*stards...?! everyone has a right to live safely...
im not having a pop at you, i spent 4 years in ulster and im aware what happens there...im not saying its right, but how do you stop these little b*stards...?! everyone has a right to live safely...
Hahahahah - no way - I think shooting them dead on the spot would be acceptable. At least there would be 0% re-occurence.
Dunno what the real answer is. Making parents in some way responsible might help. We have a neighbour whose son is a thug - she says he is just boistrous(sp) - SO far he hasn't done anything major, but the entire family have no respect for anyone else or anyone elses property. I know that he is bullying another one of the kids up the street. What do I do, show him that bullying works by giving him a good kicking?
Difficult topic to come up with a coverall answer, but I think it mostly stmes from stopping teachers from teaching us respect the hard way at school. I remember getting caught 'trespassing' by a teacher (taking a shortcut to the shop through a field) - After he kicked the **** out of me he called my father, who also kicked the sht out of me for getting in troublewith the teachers. Maybe if a few more parents took that attitude we would have a lot less trouble
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Originally Posted by fast bloke
Third offence - 6 pack (shot through knees, wrists and ankles - apparently they make you put your wrists over your knees to save bullets)
Sensitive subject this: Hard not to take sympathy with communities that have been blighted with tearaways only to take the law into their own hands, but I guess we can't permit have a mob rule culture, as the mob often becomes as bad as the tearaways! Very well observed episode of the Simpsons on this!
I think three things are self evident:
-The law needs to make adequate provision for an individual to defend themself AND their property.
-Individuals who comit crime and -in the comision of that crime- sustain personal harm should be ineligable to file any kind of action in the courts.
-Whilst the police cannot publically condone acts of retribution against tear aways, cases should be judged individually on their merits. Sometimes, it's in "the public interest" for them to -in effect- turn a blind eye, especially where no real physical harm has been done to the tearaway.
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-Individuals who comit crime and -in the comision of that crime- sustain personal harm should be ineligable to file any kind of action in the courts.
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
Live by the sword, die by the sword... harsh but fair, I have to agree.
BUT *sighs*
Apparently that's OTT, cruel and unusual punishment ...............Thank you very much European Court of Human rights!
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