chrome

I take it that every doorman these days has to be qualified with an SIA recognised training course?

Or do you just have to take the license from the local county council (backgroudn check etc..)

which certification body is most valued?
BIIAB
NOCN
Edexcel

Or doesnt it matter? As long as you have the basic level2 NVQ and council license?

Whats the average pay per hour for inner city?
I hear mixed reports from £7- £15 per hour.

Cheers.

mart360

Door supervisors...


you mean bouncers...................


changing names to bring some respectability???


remove the goons first


M

chrome

the 'goons' as you call em, have to certified now IIRC..

I'm thinking about door work seriously as I need a second income, and I cant stand the thought of warehouse/tesco etc..

Chip Sengravy

work behind the bar then

sarasquares

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mines a vodka

cookstar

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I'll get that

sarasquares

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cheers, make it a double

chrome

thats why I dont work behind the bar
too tempted to drink it all

sarasquares

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i'm still waiting for mine <taps foot>

chrome

*burp*
ahhh.. thats better..

oh ello, didnt see u there laying in the corner
sorry luv- you're barred

chrome

doesnt pay enough.. plus been there done that and it's crap work..

StickyMicky

i know that one place on newcastles quayside, the MIN wage for the bouncers is £14.85/hour

the max wage was about £20.85/hour
bar staff inside were mostly on £5.50/hour while the odd one was on £7ish

thats pretty good going for chucking out a few ponces now and again IMO

peeps in club management should not leave USB sticks in full valets, you never know who is going to have a look

chrome

Cheers Micky.

StickyMicky

no probs

ovb the northern bouncers have to be "harder"
which is why they seam to be getting good pay

£20/hour for the odd fight of 6 mates against one pissed bloke is pretty good IMO
lol

dangerous dave

S.I.A registration is required for every doorman.

It costs £350.00 for the course,failure results in re-doing the entire course.

Rates of pay largely depend on the venue that you are working.

Most city centre pubs and clubs down here pay £20.00 an hour depending on experiance.

My advice to you if you havn't done any door work before is DON'T.

I was stabbed last year by a few guys who waited in the car park for me purely because i would not allow them in the club.

My best mate was run down by a guy in a 4x4 for refusing to let him sell drugs outside the pub he was working the door on.

Think about it seriously,i mean do you want people spitting at you and your family in the street just because of the part time job you do.

dangerous dave

come to work with me one night then gobsh!te

Daft Lad

As dangerous dave says, you have to take the SIA course which is put together by the BIIAB I believe.

I've done my SIA course - being a licencee it kinda helps having the SIA bit on your side aswell! There are two parts to the exam, both of which you will need to pass to be granted a licence, then you will need to pay another £190 for your badge, which you will need to wear at all times whilst working on the door.

Also as dave says there are many risks that go along with working on as a door superviser - they get paid £10p/h+ for a reason! Giz a pm chrome if you need to know any more about it matey

Terzo 333

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The book for sale on ebay in the link above is worth a read...

chrome

good to see SN's thread notification is f*cked again

DD: Points noted Dave. Geographically- Where do you work?
Ironically enough, after I told a mate of mine in the Police about my idea- he sent me a link: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

The sensible part of me thinks you might have a point..

DaftLad: Also noted dude. Cheers. Might PM you soon..

Terzo: ta.

ScatRat

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BRINGING BACK AN OLD TOPIC
ANYONE IN THE KNOW CAN ADVISE WHERE TO GET HOW ETC SIA DOOR SUPERVISION PASS ETC
PM ME PLEASE JJ

Someone i know needs this course (apparently doesnt just cover door work)

I havent a clue

Bubba po

Doorman. What an aspiration to have.

ScatRat

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HMM
Hi he doesnt want to be a doormen but requires that course as covers other aspects within the industry.

Me personally, happy with my job

yoza

All door staff now have to be registered and certified.

You need to wear your ID/tag/badge at all times whilst working. This is regularly enforced by the Police or more often local CSO's, if you havent brought your badge you go home.

It is becoming the trend at the moment to wear high viz jackets when working event/licenced premises, radios and ear pieces are still optional, and PPE like stab vests are to be supplied/purchased by yourselves.

The business has been flooded of late by newstarters who have found themselves out of work or on short time, they have needed extra income, they choose between Taxi's and security work.

In my experiance a large amount of people coming in fresh from their SIA courses are unsuitable for licensed premises work, they seem to think they are trained for the work because they attent a local leisure centre on a Wednesday night and train at Judo. They cause more trouble than they avert....

Anyone with a clear backgound and no history so therefore meet the req'd criteria can obtain a badge if they want, they seek employment from an agency, or approach a local security firm and away they go.

Some firms pay as little as £10 an hour for door staff, I believe you get what you pay for.

In the good/bad old days you didnt need a badge or certification, I have found that these old stlye doormen are now owners of door syndicates as they can not get their badges, for one reason or another. So their only option is to start a security firm and employ badged/certificated staff. You dont need any badge to be a security firm owner, as long as you dont do the work on the doors.

There are too many companies and not enough work......the business is flooded, hence the battles to keep areas from new incoming companies.

If anyone was to ask me for advice on starting as a doorman, I would say dont bother.

If you need extra money but not the hastle/danger choose event security, but the money goes down again, as little as £7 an hour for moving cones in a arena carpark.

ScatRat

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Hi the guy needs the Door supervisioncert as it covers another aspect within the job he is applying for, He doesnt want to work on a door...

Please read what i wrote.
I havent a clue what else it covers, im not interested, i just asked on behalf of a friend,

yoza

My reply was the the original poster, thats how it works.

Your answer is on your separate post.

ScatRat

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cheers

jj