Chip Sengravy

...been on the R1 news all day, british yobs turning nice greek resorts into dens of drunken debauchery, sex in bars, public places etc...


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what do they expect? they promote these type of holidays, encourage everybody to get totally w@nkered, and then pull thier kites at the end result!

Sue Izcanal

It'll be like that here soon when 24 hour drinking starts.

OllyK

I doubt it. The **** heads will still be **** heads, the rest of us will be able to leave it later go out and relax and have a couple of hours in a decent pub without being hassled to drink up half an hour after getting there.

Chip Sengravy

I can't see the point in this 24hr drinking lark...who wants to go out at 2 in the morning?

davegtt

some people who work night shifts and dont need to get up in the morning? instead of racing to the pub at 10 and drinking as much as they can before last orders

Suresh

Erm. It's the existing archaic domestic drinking restrictions that are at the root of people going wild when freed from them and abroad. Other countries don't have the restrictions and I would suggest have less binge drinking problems.

All IMHO of course...

CooperS

I'm going on Sunday hehe

Chip Sengravy

nonsence, the british people in question will be doing exactly the same thing back in the UK at weekends, ok, maybe not quite to the same degree, but it goes on all the time,booze-fuelled fighting,********,vandalism etc.

ru'

Not being funny, but greece can stick their sh*tty hell hole of a holiday location up their @rses if they like.


Either take our money and have a nice cup of shut the f' up, or don't take our money and moan - the choice is theirs.

<not sure what caused this outburst, by the way >

unclebuck

Wishfull thinking that UK yobs will modify their drinking behaviour and start to behave like their European counterparts when licensing laws are changed. Certainly the police and others that have first hand experience know this.

They are no more likely to do that then change their diets to healthy Mediterranean style food.

Of course it's all part of the New Labour 'project'. They believe they can socially engineer people's behaviour to how they would like them to be simply by passing the 'appropriate' laws. As always they fail completely to tackle the real problems underlaying yob culture - lack of education, respect for fellow citizens and law and order.

Suresh

So what you are saying is that basically all Brits are chavs then??
I don't buy that. I don't think the Brits are that different to continentals to be honest, but restrictive drinking hours have made binging the cultural norm on the Island.

I grant you that it'll take a while for people to get it out of their systems and it will probably get worse before it gets better.

Suresh

Suresh

They are removing inappropriate laws you twit.

sti-04!!

I blame 'Labour'

The mothers should have had a fatal injection before they get the chance to go into it

OllyK

Hardly - they are relaxing the licensing laws for alchohol not removing them. How many laws have they brought in, in the last 9 years?

Chip Sengravy

No, not at all, and I don't know what part of anything I have written so far would lead you to beleive I was making such a sweeping generalisation.

Read it again if you have to:


And the Brits are very different from the continentals, you don't see them rolling round the streets at 2am pissed out of thier faces smashing things up and fighting. You may argue that this is because they have access to 24hr drinking, but again I have to disagree.

Whoever came up with the idea that increased drinking hours will kurb binge drinking is completley batty, and very out of touch with real life IMO. If anything it will make matters worse, as these monster sessions will just last longer.

The main difference between "us" and "them", is that the type of people we are talking about here, i.e the british binge drinkers/yobs, do not go out for the social side of things, they go out to get PISSED. Continentals don't do this, its a completely different type of night out for your average Spaniard.

_Meridian_

iTrader: (1)

And if it was the licensing laws, then why do they behave the same abroad? Since they are usually still drinking (and fighting, vomiting etc) at 4am it can't because of the hours.


M

unclebuck

What's the point

Here we are again taking lectures from some berk who left the UK in 1995 and has NO experience of life in New Labour's UK. Yet he still presumes (just like the rest of the PC 'do gooders') that he knows what's best for us.

OllyK

I think the point is that it is the same people here and abroad. Those people are going to get pi$$ed and cause trouble no matter what, if there were no pubs they'd be down the local off-license. For the rest of us that like to socialise with friends over 3 or 4 pints, it's nice to know we aren't going to be hurried out of the pub.

I doubt it will make much difference to be honest, it will however avoid the "crowds" on the streets at 11.30, or at least reduce them, so there may be fewer fights.

Luan Pra bang

I will mean more people die of alchohol poisoning and it might help to clean up the gene pool alittle bit.

rr_ww

I wonder if someone can explain something to me.

When I go to a Pub theres a bell at 11:30? Last orders.

But, if I go to a nightclub they carry on serving alcohol until closing time.

Whats the current licensing laws? How come a pub has to stop earlier than a club?

Brit_in_Japan

Once the novelty of later drinking times has worn off, will people spend any more money on drink? If not, the problem with drunkeness should reduce a little because people will be pacing themselves a little better.

I don't know if it will affect a fundamental feature of British culture though, going out with the specific aim to get drunk with the likelyhood of turning violent when drunk. You find plenty of drunk people staggering around the streets in Japan on Fri/Sat nights, but I have not once felt uneasy that someone will try to pick a fight. It's a different mentality at work.

Suresh

Erm. 1993 actually, lul. I left whilst the Tories were running the country into the ground. Unemployment was 10% and a whole swathe of the population had negative equity thanks to boom and bust economics.


The funny thing is I have a vote in the UK and actually use it to make sure you remain one of life's losers.

Chip Sengravy

So when was the last time you were out in the UK on a suturday night at 1-2AM Suresh?

Where is this Shangrila in which you reside in where everybody sits chatting pleasantly while nursing a pint for the whole night?

Suresh

I'm in the UK 3-4 times a year privately and a maybe couple of times on business, so I do still keep in touch with good old Blighty. To be honest though I'm not usually out boozing that much even where I live, as it's not really a part of my lifestyle these days (maybe a couple of times a year). So to answer your question - probably 2 years ago . Why do you ask?



Oh and for the record, I was out with some local lads in town here a few weeks back when it all kicked off at a pizza takeaway. One of my mates found a hair in his food and told the owner what he thought of him in fluent Italian, after the owner had denied it and called him a liar. There was a fair old scuffle as the workers piled outside to [try to] lay into my mate and the police were called and turned up en masse to stop what was 'quite a public disturbance'. Would that be a typical night out in the UK too?. Beer - beer - beer - pizza - fight - beer - felafels - beer - taxi - bed : and all between the hours of 6pm and 2am!

Suresh

Chip Sengravy

Reason I ask, is because if you are not here 365 days a year you lose touch as to the extent of the problem. I live in a part of manchester that probably represents alot of the UK...its not posh, its not scrotesville either, in fact relatively quiet...but if you go into the local town on a Saturday night, it's fcucking mayhem. Police screaming about the place, drunks, trouble, etc...


...so you have just hit the nail on the head there, you have been involved in a booze-fuelled scuffle in a country with liberal licencing laws...proof that it happens anywhere. Of course people fight, it's human nature, but the point I am trying to make is that alot of the problems in the UK are caused by excessive alcohol consumption, to allow this consuption to be increased by relaxing drinking time restrictions is just ludicrous. It is not logical in any sense, and anything anybody tells me, will not convince me otherwise.



Normal human being: do you ever fight sober?

Weekend Lout: errr...sometimes..

Normal human being: do you ever fight while drunk?

Weekend Lout: errr...yeah, most times.

Normal human being: good, we are going to let you drink as much as you want, when you want.

Weekend Lout: errr...ta!





Weekend Lout: hey.......are you looking at my bird ?

Luan Pra bang

There is the start of your problem manchester is a dump full of yobs and arseholes come to milton keynes lots of drinking and yobs but no fights. If you live in deprived northern hell holes expect violence.

Chip Sengravy

I've worked all over the UK Luan....I have seen the same stuff going on from Truro to Dundee. You are quite right though, manchester is one of the worse out of the lot.

KiwiGTI

Relevant article here :

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...752771,00.html

CooperS

I fly there tomorrow lunchtime so I'll let you know if it's as bad as they say next Monday.

Chip Sengravy

^

case.rested.


cooper...have fun!