Mini ipod - type of downloads?
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Mini ipod - type of downloads?
Hi all, im looking at the new mini ipodnano
Just wondering do i have to sign up for itunes? or can i put my cds on it through my pc? also will it except the tunes from cds i have put together myself?
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Just wondering do i have to sign up for itunes? or can i put my cds on it through my pc? also will it except the tunes from cds i have put together myself?
cheers
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AFAIK it works just like the normal ipod so, yes. use itunes as it's easy and free. then pay to download tracks as you would normally. You can also use your CD collection and import them into itunes and they'll go onto the ipod too.
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right so before i put tunes on it, i have to have itunes then upload my cd collection to it then i can put them onto the ipodnano?
Never had one and do not know anything about them!?
So can i not cut & paste when its connected to my pc like i can on my normal mp3 player? or drag & drop function?
thanks for the reply
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Never had one and do not know anything about them!?
So can i not cut & paste when its connected to my pc like i can on my normal mp3 player? or drag & drop function?
thanks for the reply
tim
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Sadly I think you can only manage your iPod through iTunes. Its a good programme, easy to use etc etc
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With your ipod, you'll get a setup cd which will automatically put itunes on your poota. Any cds you burn will drop into your itunes library and if setup up to do so will automatically update you ipod every time you plug it onto the pc.
I have **** loads of mp3 files on my poota which i want to put onto my ipod but you cant just drop them into your library in itunes cos they're a different format, i have been told (on here) that if you download a free winamp plug-in you can then manage both file types from that and therefore put normal mp3 files onto the pod.
Gonna check it out when i get a sec.
I have **** loads of mp3 files on my poota which i want to put onto my ipod but you cant just drop them into your library in itunes cos they're a different format, i have been told (on here) that if you download a free winamp plug-in you can then manage both file types from that and therefore put normal mp3 files onto the pod.
Gonna check it out when i get a sec.
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All of the files on my iPod are .mp3, it's your choice, iTunes doesn't force it's own format on you. You can import your old .mp3 files into iTunes no problem.
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All of the files on my iPod are .mp3, it's your choice, iTunes doesn't force it's own format on you. You can import your old .mp3 files into iTunes no problem.
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Originally Posted by r32
Sadly I think you can only manage your iPod through iTunes. .
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Well, technically, the iPod is like a USB hard drive with some extra bits stuck on it, so you can drag and drop files onto it at your hearts content.
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
I have an iPod and that "feature" is very annoying. However, it's so easy and nice to use that I don't care
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
I have an iPod and that "feature" is very annoying. However, it's so easy and nice to use that I don't care
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Originally Posted by Henrik
Well, technically, the iPod is like a USB hard drive with some extra bits stuck on it, so you can drag and drop files onto it at your hearts content.
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
I have an iPod and that "feature" is very annoying. However, it's so easy and nice to use that I don't care
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
I have an iPod and that "feature" is very annoying. However, it's so easy and nice to use that I don't care
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Eh? I'm sorry, but you're wrong on so many levels!
Apple has good implementations and concepts. The iPod is crippled like this because the record industry lobby would make sure Apple got in trouble otherwise, because the iPod would make it too easy to copy music between devices.
As for the operating systems (offtopic, i know) - miles better than Windows ever was.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound so rude, but I do believe that apple have better implementations and concepts than a lot of other companies
Apple has good implementations and concepts. The iPod is crippled like this because the record industry lobby would make sure Apple got in trouble otherwise, because the iPod would make it too easy to copy music between devices.
As for the operating systems (offtopic, i know) - miles better than Windows ever was.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound so rude, but I do believe that apple have better implementations and concepts than a lot of other companies
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Originally Posted by Henrik
Eh? I'm sorry, but you're wrong on so many levels!
Apple has good implementations and concepts. The iPod is crippled like this because the record industry lobby would make sure Apple got in trouble otherwise, because the iPod would make it too easy to copy music between devices.
Apple has good implementations and concepts. The iPod is crippled like this because the record industry lobby would make sure Apple got in trouble otherwise, because the iPod would make it too easy to copy music between devices.
As for the operating systems (offtopic, i know) - miles better than Windows ever was.
Edit: Sorry, I didn't mean it to sound so rude, but I do believe that apple have better implementations and concepts than a lot of other companies
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The reason why the iPod is so successful is because IT IS implemented well. Easy to use, anyone can do it, you don't have to think about files & folders etc. Just copy through iTunes and it's all there, it works, no dragging and dropping etc. In a world full of gadgets that are complicated to use, full of buttons, 'features' that are rarely used etc. it's a breath of fresh air.
I could understand any criticism if the iTunes was poor but it isn't, it works, millions use it and are very happy with it. Of course there will be some people who don't like it (including those that 'want' to dislike it for whatever reason ) but for the most part and for most people it's great.
ALL the mp3 players have SOME form of software to play the songs and you can use the iPod as a storage device. You can go through windows explorer, create a folder on the iPod and copy files to and fro to all day long. You don't need software to do this either, just plug it into your PC and it's there as a drive just like everything else.
I could understand any criticism if the iTunes was poor but it isn't, it works, millions use it and are very happy with it. Of course there will be some people who don't like it (including those that 'want' to dislike it for whatever reason ) but for the most part and for most people it's great.
ALL the mp3 players have SOME form of software to play the songs and you can use the iPod as a storage device. You can go through windows explorer, create a folder on the iPod and copy files to and fro to all day long. You don't need software to do this either, just plug it into your PC and it's there as a drive just like everything else.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
I could understand any criticism if the iTunes was poor but it isn't, it works, millions use it and are very happy with it. Of course there will be some people who don't like it (including those that 'want' to dislike it for whatever reason ) but for the most part and for most people it's great.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
It's not a case of disliking the product, I don't use it, because odly enough, my current MP3 player is generic and doesn't require separate software to load audio files on to it.
I personally only have 2 complaints about the iPod/iTunes.
a) iTunes takes a little too long to open, not a great deal of time could be faster nonetheless (it's fast on Macs tho). Mind you other mp3 player software has performance issues of some sort.
b) It'd be handier to 'manually' copy files from iPod to HDD but on the iPod they are all renamed so you need to be a bit 'clever' how you do this. It's very minor as I have never really needed this function but it'd be nice to be able to do this easily.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Fair enough, it would p1ss me off if I didn't like iTunes.
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Well, if you don't like iTunes, don't buy an iPod. I think most people know this and wouldn't buy one otherwise.
I did my research, tried iTunes etc. found it fine so happy with iPod (only one that offered 60GB apart from creative thing which didn't rock my boat at all).
ALL the products are gonna have annoyances but from their market share and user reviews etc. the iPod/iTunes combo is far and away the easiest to get on with. There will ALWAYS be some who don't get on with it, but that's the case with ALL products.
I did my research, tried iTunes etc. found it fine so happy with iPod (only one that offered 60GB apart from creative thing which didn't rock my boat at all).
ALL the products are gonna have annoyances but from their market share and user reviews etc. the iPod/iTunes combo is far and away the easiest to get on with. There will ALWAYS be some who don't get on with it, but that's the case with ALL products.
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Well, if you don't like iTunes, don't buy an iPod. I think most people know this and wouldn't buy one otherwise.
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I don't wanna get dragged into whether ipods and itunes are any good, i aint got a clue what you boys are goin on about so i wont join in.
Henrik, can you elaborate about the correct directory, name and database entry bit. I'm a proper numpty with these things, prob obvious that!!
Well, technically, the iPod is like a USB hard drive with some extra bits stuck on it, so you can drag and drop files onto it at your hearts content.
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
However, for the iPod to be able to play the files, they need to be stored in the correct directory with the correct name and also have an entry in the database (so essentially, this is what you need iTunes for).
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Originally Posted by Robbie T
I don't wanna get dragged into whether ipods and itunes are any good, i aint got a clue what you boys are goin on about so i wont join in.
Henrik, can you elaborate about the correct directory, name and database entry bit. I'm a proper numpty with these things, prob obvious that!!
Henrik, can you elaborate about the correct directory, name and database entry bit. I'm a proper numpty with these things, prob obvious that!!
Originally Posted by Dracoro
Well, if you don't like iTunes, don't buy an iPod. I think most people know this and wouldn't buy one otherwise.
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Its shocking how much bad information about the iPod there is these days.
Let me clarify.
The iPod does comply to the USB mass storage guidelines and it can be used as a hard drive for the dragging and dropping of files.
To play music files you must update your iPod using iTunes. If you do this then you will see many benefits such as always having backups of your music collection. The fact that all you have to do is drop the iPod in a dock to update it entirely is brilliant.
If you want more control over what music and playlists get put on your iPod then iTunes will allow you to do this simply turn off automatic updates in preferences.
iTunes and the iPod support mp3, aac, wav and Apple Lossless format.
iTunes will convert wma's* automatically for you if you are using a windows PC and you want to put these files on your iPod.
iTunes does not apply a DRM to your own ripped CD's like Windows Media Player and is therefore less restrictive over music you have paid for. *If you have been trying to convert wma files using iTunes and failing - its because of this, yes you got PWNED by M$ as they say.
The iPod battery IS replacable and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. You can take it to any Apple store and it will be replaced for £49.
Anymore?
Let me clarify.
The iPod does comply to the USB mass storage guidelines and it can be used as a hard drive for the dragging and dropping of files.
To play music files you must update your iPod using iTunes. If you do this then you will see many benefits such as always having backups of your music collection. The fact that all you have to do is drop the iPod in a dock to update it entirely is brilliant.
If you want more control over what music and playlists get put on your iPod then iTunes will allow you to do this simply turn off automatic updates in preferences.
iTunes and the iPod support mp3, aac, wav and Apple Lossless format.
iTunes will convert wma's* automatically for you if you are using a windows PC and you want to put these files on your iPod.
iTunes does not apply a DRM to your own ripped CD's like Windows Media Player and is therefore less restrictive over music you have paid for. *If you have been trying to convert wma files using iTunes and failing - its because of this, yes you got PWNED by M$ as they say.
The iPod battery IS replacable and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. You can take it to any Apple store and it will be replaced for £49.
Anymore?
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Originally Posted by angrynorth
Its shocking how much bad information about the iPod there is these days.
Let me clarify.
The iPod does comply to the USB mass storage guidelines and it can be used as a hard drive for the dragging and dropping of files.
To play music files you must update your iPod using iTunes. If you do this then you will see many benefits such as always having backups of your music collection. The fact that all you have to do is drop the iPod in a dock to update it entirely is brilliant.
If you want more control over what music and playlists get put on your iPod then iTunes will allow you to do this simply turn off automatic updates in preferences.
iTunes and the iPod support mp3, aac, wav and Apple Lossless format.
iTunes will convert wma's* automatically for you if you are using a windows PC and you want to put these files on your iPod.
iTunes does not apply a DRM to your own ripped CD's like Windows Media Player and is therefore less restrictive over music you have paid for. *If you have been trying to convert wma files using iTunes and failing - its because of this, yes you got PWNED by M$ as they say.
The iPod battery IS replacable and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. You can take it to any Apple store and it will be replaced for £49.
Anymore?
Let me clarify.
The iPod does comply to the USB mass storage guidelines and it can be used as a hard drive for the dragging and dropping of files.
To play music files you must update your iPod using iTunes. If you do this then you will see many benefits such as always having backups of your music collection. The fact that all you have to do is drop the iPod in a dock to update it entirely is brilliant.
If you want more control over what music and playlists get put on your iPod then iTunes will allow you to do this simply turn off automatic updates in preferences.
iTunes and the iPod support mp3, aac, wav and Apple Lossless format.
iTunes will convert wma's* automatically for you if you are using a windows PC and you want to put these files on your iPod.
iTunes does not apply a DRM to your own ripped CD's like Windows Media Player and is therefore less restrictive over music you have paid for. *If you have been trying to convert wma files using iTunes and failing - its because of this, yes you got PWNED by M$ as they say.
The iPod battery IS replacable and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. You can take it to any Apple store and it will be replaced for £49.
Anymore?
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Originally Posted by Robbie T
I don't wanna get dragged into whether ipods and itunes are any good, i aint got a clue what you boys are goin on about so i wont join in.
Henrik, can you elaborate about the correct directory, name and database entry bit. I'm a proper numpty with these things, prob obvious that!!
Henrik, can you elaborate about the correct directory, name and database entry bit. I'm a proper numpty with these things, prob obvious that!!
Basically, if you use iTunes you don't have to worry about it, it was just me being geeky
iTunes will sort it all out for you, and it is a decent piece of software (in my opinion), even if it takes a bit of getting used to if you use e.g. winamp at the moment.
My ipod is so easy to use i reckon my parents could figure it out, so basically don't worry about having problems using it
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Originally Posted by OllyK
That was kind of my point, you spend £200 or whatever on an iPOD and you have no real fall back method of loading it up if you don't like iTunes.
Also, for Linux there's gtkpod which lets you copy stuff to / from the iPod.
Edit: so now there's no reason for you not to join the cult
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Originally Posted by OllyK
In otherwords, without iTunes you have paid way over the odds for a 40Gb USB hard drive.
Are you just being pedantic for the sake of it? If a USB hard drive was what you wanted then that is what you would buy.
If you don't like iTunes then don't buy one, but I can't think of a reason not to like it.
Also, going from your point of view, what if I didn't want to use Windows Exploder to load up my iPod? If that was the case I would have just spent "way over the odds" -as you say on a 40GB mp3 player.
At least the iPod is supports multiple OS, there are only a couple of other players that will work on OSX so my choice is limited there - just as yours is by being "forced" to use iTunes.
Also, where are you getting your prices from? The iPod is very competitive these days.
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Originally Posted by Robbie T
Sorry still being silly, just can you put a few terms into english for me whats a DRM and wtf does that mean
Means "OWNED" or someone is taking the **** out of you and laughing about it.
eg
Y0!_! 60T PWN3D 8y teh M$
In other words, all those people who are saying that Apple are restricting choice should look at their own stuff before mouthing off about others. At least Apple doesn't try to claim ownership of your own ripped CD's
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Originally Posted by angrynorth
Are you just being pedantic for the sake of it?
If a USB hard drive was what you wanted then that is what you would buy.
If you don't like iTunes then don't buy one, but I can't think of a reason not to like it.
If you don't like iTunes then don't buy one, but I can't think of a reason not to like it.
Also, going from your point of view, what if I didn't want to use Windows Exploder to load up my iPod? If that was the case I would have just spent "way over the odds" -as you say on a 40GB mp3 player.
At least the iPod is supports multiple OS, there are only a couple of other players that will work on OSX so my choice is limited there - just as yours is by being "forced" to use iTunes.
Also, where are you getting your prices from? The iPod is very competitive these days.
I installed it last night out of interest. It seems to install 2 services iPODService - great when I don't have one and iTunesHelper. The app sits there munching 26 Meg of memory while just sitting there minimized in the system tray doing nothing with nothing loaded. Put a few Mp3s on and it jumps to 37Mb to sit there and do nothing. 10Mb to catalogue 500 Tracks and it doesn't release the memory afterwards??
Fine some people obviously love their iPODs, great enjoy, I'm happy not to be one of the crowd.