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Old 22 September 2005, 05:55 PM
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Question Anyone find the MOBO awards racist ??

I'm sure if there was a MOWO awards, there would be uproar !

Not got anything against the music, unless it's (c)rap which i hate, but it always struck me as being racist and I couldn't understand how they could get away with it.

Mind you Maria Carey won something one year, which I thought was hilarious.
Old 22 September 2005, 06:06 PM
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Yes- and incredibly insulting by implying that pretty much all music (if you look at the categories) is of black origin.

I agree about the MOWO's
Old 22 September 2005, 06:07 PM
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It means music inspired by black soul music and so on. Hence why Mariah Carey won one year.

Not racist, just crap music.
Old 22 September 2005, 06:12 PM
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totally agree, MOWO there would be outrage!!!!!.....what a crap sounding name
Old 22 September 2005, 06:14 PM
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How do they get away with it? Because we have to allow it to happen, otherwise we'd be branded racist. But if we wish to exclude non-white artists/groups from an awards show and have it white only, oh dear, we can't do that, terribly bad form.

It seems nowadays most of the black music is simply wannabe gansters rapping. Wish it was not but it'll continue whilst the youths keep buying it, hoping that it'll somehow allow them to escape the ghetto and become big stars like the rappers they listen to, which they won't, they'll end up working in burger king or just scrounge off wellfare.
Old 22 September 2005, 06:28 PM
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I've always thought this
Old 22 September 2005, 06:49 PM
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Do a search, we get a MOBO thread every year!!
Old 22 September 2005, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by monty baber
I've always thought this
Me too, it pretty much excludes everything else by including the words "black" in the title.

But to be fair.... it's probably about time the tables were turned.
Old 22 September 2005, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy Tang
Do a search, we get a MOBO thread every year!!
Was just gonna say this!

Still an outrage though.
Old 22 September 2005, 07:01 PM
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ALthough the idea was sound in the begining. Its just been hi-jacked by certain elements of society for a political end.

I caught a bit of a programme the other morning. Has 3 youths from a Streatham Estate. 1 Black, 1 White and 1 Muslim. They all viewed themselves as British. As they all said "we all dress the same, we all like the same music, we all live in the same area."

So why some political groups think we're segregated I have no clue
Old 22 September 2005, 09:40 PM
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white people have (on average) more money, better education, less stereotyping, better jobs, need i go on?

and you care about the ******* MOBO's?????

heres an idea - get treated as slaves for hundreads of years, get treated as 2nd class citizens for a bit after that and then find you still arent on an equal playing field - then have your MOWO (what would that be? nordic flutes?)


i remember being at a sales conference a few years ago when the MOBOs where on.........all of us in the room earnt 100k +++.....ONE black bloke there.

on the way home stopped for a burger with a few of the guys....EVERY burger flipper was black.....back in the car the guys where moaning about the "unfair" MOBO's (while we all sat in a 7 series eating food cooked for us by black people....all very weird.

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Old 22 September 2005, 09:51 PM
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I used to work for a company that had a "Black Engineer of the Year" award (yes, it was a US-based company). I always thought it insinuated that if you were black you weren't good enough for the normal "Engineer of the Year" award.

My suggestion of having "Bald Engineer of the Year" didn't catch on though.
Old 22 September 2005, 09:55 PM
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We have this same thread on this same subject with the same arguments every year around this time...
Old 22 September 2005, 09:56 PM
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I just don't like the music. So it is of zero interest to me.
Old 22 September 2005, 10:02 PM
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Thumbs down

Rather go down the Hackney Empire.
Old 22 September 2005, 10:07 PM
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What are you talking about, there is a "MOWO" award, its called the Eurovision Song Contest!!!! HA HA!
Old 22 September 2005, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Markus
How do they get away with it? Because we have to allow it to happen, otherwise we'd be branded racist. But if we wish to exclude non-white artists/groups from an awards show and have it white only, oh dear, we can't do that, terribly bad form.
Errm , read up about it. White people are NOT excluded from the awards show. Yes it would be racist if white people were excluded but they're not so it isn't.

R&B, soul, rap etc. DID originate from black people. Bangra originates from Asians, Rock from whites etc.

The girls at my office sometimes have a 'girls lunch' but I don't get offended by this. The blokes, after all, have a 'lads' night out as well. Now if this were the case every lunch then it'd be a problem but it's something that only happens every now and again.

Anyway, how many people are REALLY offended? I suspect that many WANT to be offended as an excuse to have a rant.
Old 22 September 2005, 10:14 PM
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All bollocks, if it 'botha's' you dont watch it, it just means all the crap is dealt with in one go. Dont get me started on bloody R and B, ohh baby baby, you so sweet, right from your minge to your stinky feet, oohhh yeah, bayyyyybbbbbeeee.
Old 22 September 2005, 10:17 PM
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Shortlisted for next year, Jacko. Do you need a guitarist?
Old 22 September 2005, 10:18 PM
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surely all he needs is a beatbox
Old 22 September 2005, 10:24 PM
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quality Jacko.....
Old 22 September 2005, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Bangra originates from Asians, Rock from whites etc.
Well rock came out of blues, which is of course of black origin. So you could argue that pretty much any sort of music (except Mozart) is of black origin.
Old 22 September 2005, 11:00 PM
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Here's a link to last year's discussion on the topic. Should save going over the same tired old ground ...
Old 22 September 2005, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
heres an idea - get treated as slaves for hundreads of years, get treated as 2nd class citizens for a bit after that and then find you still arent on an equal playing field - then have your MOWO (what would that be? nordic flutes?)
No mate, you want "White" music?
Listen to techno.
astraboy.
Old 22 September 2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Rock from whites etc.

Errr.... what about the songs that Elvis Presley stole from the black artists?
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
ohh baby baby, you so sweet, right from your minge to your stinky feet, oohhh yeah, bayyyyybbbbbeeee.
Dubious politics/satire aside this made me laugh my fecking cokc off....
Old 23 September 2005, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by astraboy
No mate, you want "White" music?
Listen to techno.
astraboy.

"nobody listens to techno" slim shaddy (white bloke/black music )
Old 23 September 2005, 11:13 AM
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I dont think it's racist although I do think its done its job very well in that when it started music of black origin didnt get the airtime or recognition that it gets today and it has certainly done that in fact I would say black music nowadays is more mainstream than white, I dont listen to radio 1 because its predominantly black music but they are simply reflecting what is popular and is in the charts thats all so Im with all the old fogeys on radio 2 now! I do like some black music and I used to be well into rap, just got old I guess!

Gary
Old 23 September 2005, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Tiggs
white people have (on average) more money, better education, less stereotyping, better jobs, need i go on?

and you care about the ******* MOBO's?????

heres an idea - get treated as slaves for hundreads of years, get treated as 2nd class citizens for a bit after that and then find you still arent on an equal playing field - then have your MOWO (what would that be? nordic flutes?)


i remember being at a sales conference a few years ago when the MOBOs where on.........all of us in the room earnt 100k +++.....ONE black bloke there.

on the way home stopped for a burger with a few of the guys....EVERY burger flipper was black.....back in the car the guys where moaning about the "unfair" MOBO's (while we all sat in a 7 series eating food cooked for us by black people....all very weird.
You all earn £100k and eat Burger King???


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