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Old 25 October 2005, 11:29 AM
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Question How do babies breathe?

Dumb a$$ question I know, but a question just raised by my team at work (all males obviously!).

More accurately, how do babies survive in the womb - How do they get oxygen?

The can't breathe as we do, until they are delivered so what's the score?

Someone teach me school boy biology please!
Old 25 October 2005, 11:31 AM
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They get oxygen passed to them from the mother's blood to their blood via the placenta.
Old 25 October 2005, 11:34 AM
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You can see clearly how they do it from this picture
Old 25 October 2005, 11:40 AM
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(this was in response to a question "How do they know when to breath?" that has since been deleted.... possibly due to embarrassment of the poster! )

Its a reflex. Before they are born their body doesn't have the urge to breath because its blood is well oxygenated. On being born the oxygen source is removed and the urgency to breath builds up (like the urge you get holding your breath). Blood is redirected towards the lungs and the baby will cough up any fluid and start to take the first few breaths to inflate the lungs.

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Old 25 October 2005, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ajm
(this was in response to a question "How do they know when to breath?" that has since been deleted.... possibly due to embarrassment of the poster! )

Its a reflex. Before they are born their body doesn't have the urge to breath because its blood is well oxygenated. On being born the oxygen source is removed and the urgency to breath builds up (like the urge you get holding your breath). Blood is redirected towards the lungs and the baby will cough up any fluid and start to take the first few breaths to inflate the lungs.
Yes it was.. that was me.. I had a sudden thought that i'd been very stupid after i saw the scuba diver picture..

But having read your reply it wasnt as stupid as i thought (i dont think)..

Edit to re add what ajm replied to: How do they know when they pop out that they need to start breathing, or are they trying to breathe before they come out but cant. I know nothing about babies & birth etc.


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Old 25 October 2005, 11:48 AM
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So does that mean that potentially a human could be submersed in oxygenated liquid and yet still breathe? I'm sure there was a sci-fi film where they filled a capsule with liquid that entered the lungs and allowed breathing for prolonged space flight. Can't remember the film though.

Edit : Capsule as in the sort that is big enough for a human to be contained in, not a paracetamol sized one
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Originally Posted by Hanslow
So does that mean that potentially a human could be submersed in oxygenated liquid and yet still breathe? I'm sure there was a sci-fi film where they filled a capsule with liquid that entered the lungs and allowed breathing for prolonged space flight. Can't remember the film though.

Edit : Capsule as in the sort that is big enough for a human to be contained in, not a paracetamol sized one
The Abyss and yes in theory you can 'drown' providing you can get enough oxygen into your blood stream via your lungs.

edit to add. this is being looked at to help with burns victims where the lungs have been burnt through smoke inhalation.
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Yes, you can 'breathe' oxygenated fluid - it's been done experimentally with mice IIRC. It's also, as you say, been used in various sci-fi films etc - two that spring immediately to mind are "The Abyss" where it was used in a diving suit to counter the pressure of a very deep dive, and the TV series UFO (the aliens breathed a green liquid during spaceflight)
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Somebody must have fell asleep during their 1st year Biology lesson
Old 25 October 2005, 11:55 AM
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Ignore me!

Like the responses so far, cheers!
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ajm, as an aside which you probably already know about, it's not the lack of oxygen in the blood that triggers the breathing response but the build up of carbon dioxide. It's an odd fact that if you have a person breathing the same air in and out through a chemical that removes the carbon dioxide, they will continue breathing happily with no discomfort until they faint through oxygen deficiency.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
ajm, as an aside which you probably already know about, it's not the lack of oxygen in the blood that triggers the breathing response but the build up of carbon dioxide. It's an odd fact that if you have a person breathing the same air in and out through a chemical that removes the carbon dioxide, they will continue breathing happily with no discomfort until they faint through oxygen deficiency.
Yes, good point.... in a low oxygen environment its quite easy to get hypoxia without knowing it. Using inert gas fire extinguishers in an enlosed space for example.... or, as you say, inadvertantly re-breathing whilst bubbling through sodium hydroxide!
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Somebody must have fell asleep during their 1st year Biology lesson
..and someone else must have FALLEN asleep during their first year English lesson
Old 25 October 2005, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteT
..and someone else must have FALLEN asleep during their first year English lesson
Old 25 October 2005, 11:07 PM
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Ok, numptie alert required....so whats the umbilical cord for then??

I thought that was what was used to deliver oxygenated blood to the baby, hence its need not to breathe
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I think the term the young people use is "pwned".
Old 25 October 2005, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
Ok, numptie alert required....so whats the umbilical cord for then??

I thought that was what was used to deliver oxygenated blood to the baby, hence its need not to breathe
Are you a practising feejit or are you fully qualified, Lumy?

At one end of the umbilical cord is a mass of blood vessels and other tissues called the placenta, which is intimately associated with, but not directly connected to, the lining of the womb. They are in such a close association and over so large a surface area, that sufficient oxygen for the foetus's needs can diffuse into the placenta directly from the Mother's blood vessels. At the other end of the umbilical cord is a baby. <----Justified.


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God damn!! So I was not that far out after all

Thanks Bubba

(can you tell that I opted out of Biology at school )
Old 25 October 2005, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Luminous
God damn!! So I was not that far out after all

Thanks Bubba

(can you tell that I was thrown out of Biology at school )
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