apples24

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got an rover derv using as an every day car 420 td 1998, tried it out yesterday on svo straight from the bottle and ran fine although cold start this morning was a bit pants but then thats to be expected and can be tolerated for the price of 21p per litre at the mo
yes it has a bosche injector pump, someone mentioned i could mix a very small amout of white spirit or petrol etc to the oil to aid cold start?

i apreciate not al dervs can run svo but did a little research and it seams mine should be fine

but at the mo v happy at end of day brill for the enviroment brill for my pocket, and yes i wil be declaring im runing on chip fat lol

Petem95

If it runs ok on it then fair play, 21p/litre sounds good to me!!

Garage around here has starting selling red diesel for about 38p/litre!

Theres never really any farm traffic about so Im guessing the idea is that drivers of ordinary diesels will fill up with it 'by accident'.

The garage probably make 4 times the profit on the red stuff so its in their interest!

Scooby Soon!

Dont know where you are located but we have had one of a vans dipped at least 4 times in the last 6 months. They take a swab if they think its suspect and will then confiscate the van. Not worth the risk for me on a 1 year old 313 sprinter

GC8

The problem with SVO is that it thickens up in the cold weather, even if you mix it 50/50 with DERV you may well still have a problem. Rape Seed Ester would be a better bet; failing that Id suggest either a heated fuel filter or a warming element plumbed into the cooling system, to warm the fuel in the pipes leading to the injection pump.

*As apples has stated, you can only use SVO in a Bosch pump-equipped vehicle; using unmodified vegetable oil in a vehicle with a Lucas-type pump will f*ck it!*


Simon

apples24

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what about the small amount of additive to the svo ? yes its thicker when cold and that only seems to effect cold start and end of day as long as it starts who cares lol

its actually more healthy for the engine than proper diesel ! just smell like a chip shop as ya drive down the road pmsl

scott8629

Typical my Pug 306 has the crappy lucas fuel pump. Any ideas how to get around this apart from fit a new pump?

Scott

pugoetru

I used to run my pug on 50/50 mix of diesel and cooking oil ran fine but you were always hungry

also used the red stuff ohh what a naughty boy i am LOL
who cares ran it for 20000 miles got done once £500 fine who won there then !!

If they didn't charge so much for it we wouldn't bother looking for cheaper fuel would we

kingofturds

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anyone know what pump i have in my 2.2 d laguna then?

pugoetru

dont bother renault diesels dont even like diesel very much

GC8

Mosts Renault deisels have a Lucas type pump with plastic impeller vanes.

mart360

What about a mk 1 seat toledo??

i know its a vw engine, (or supposed to be)

could do with a cheaper alternative

Mart

apples24

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most german cars are fine, as above a lot people use 50/50 or 80/20 but theres quite a few who just litrely poor it in there tank outside tescos pmsl as they find its easier to put the emptys straight into the recycle bin lol
if you have a bosch pump try it spose, i belive direct fuel injection can be a problem but then i also heard of a chap ruing svo in a transit so mixed storys really, if your diesel has a cat its a bonus as wont smell as much

apples24

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also remember people to do this legit you will have to pay 20p tax per litre

GC8

Id advise anyone who does to register as a fuel producer; its quite easy.

Milamber

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Why?

GC8

Im not going to spell it out ffs!

john_s

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Legal issues... as soon as you pour the oil in your fuel tank, fuel duty becomes payable on it.

However, did you put 50 litres in, or 25, or 5....

John.

apples24

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i thought only have to register as a producer if your making bio fuel at home, if your runing svo ( straight from bottle ) its just matter paying tax?

pugoetru

its not realy that simple though come on this is britain

LEGALY THERE ARE LOTS OF RULES ETC AND THE FUEL ENDS UP JUST AS DEAR LOL

GC8

Spot on; and it is that simple too...

tarmac terror

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Hes right on the money - I have been running a Seat Leon TDI on Biodiesel for over 60,000 miles. There is very little saving to be had in terms of the cost of fuel - the Government take a lot on it in duty and therre is a production overhead to factor in. I like the idea of running a car on a waste product which does less harm to the environment, am doing my bit for the pollution I cause by running the scoob and the porsche!

Note that bio-diesel is NOT a few litres of crisp and dry dumped in with diesel. Proper, reliable biofuel is new / used veggie oil, which is boiled, washed and chemincally reacted with Methanol, to create an ester so there is a cost in production too.

I am convinced that it makes my car run quieter, and pull stronger. The emissions from biodiesel are CO2 and Water, minute traces of sulphur, and lesser hydrocarbons compared with vehicles running Derv or Petrol.

Having been on the wrong side of HMC&E for misuse of oils - I would advise you not to run the gauntlet - its just not worth the risk.

TT