Police helicopter charges?
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Police helicopter charges?
My brother in law & his 15 year old lad went walking on some local fells on monday, for some reason his lad decides he will run up the fell leaving his father & mother behind, suddenly fog descends & he gets lost.
Eventually his dad decides enough is enough & calls the police, they call out the helicopter & mountain rescue, 2 hrs later he turns up some 6 miles away & makes the call to his dad using a phonebox.
My Question is, will he be billed for the cost of the helicopter & calling out mount rescue.
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Eventually his dad decides enough is enough & calls the police, they call out the helicopter & mountain rescue, 2 hrs later he turns up some 6 miles away & makes the call to his dad using a phonebox.
My Question is, will he be billed for the cost of the helicopter & calling out mount rescue.
TIA
Andy
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Originally Posted by PG
Nah, but that shouldnt stop you from mocking up a letter from the local police station asking him for £100's
Pure evil ha ha nice one
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Andy,
You wouldn't normally be billed.
But do consider that the majority of Mountain Rescue teams are funded via donations only. So might be a nice thing to do to contribute something to them, even if it is only a token payment.
I used to be in the mountain rescue in my younger years and we never minded being called out for situations like this. You never know, it could have worked out a lot worse. Hence it was never problem. However, the diesel for the landies needed topping up etc. and that all came out of the tiny budget we had.
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You wouldn't normally be billed.
But do consider that the majority of Mountain Rescue teams are funded via donations only. So might be a nice thing to do to contribute something to them, even if it is only a token payment.
I used to be in the mountain rescue in my younger years and we never minded being called out for situations like this. You never know, it could have worked out a lot worse. Hence it was never problem. However, the diesel for the landies needed topping up etc. and that all came out of the tiny budget we had.
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Andy,
You wouldn't normally be billed.
But do consider that the majority of Mountain Rescue teams are funded via donations only. So might be a nice thing to do to contribute something to them, even if it is only a token payment.
I used to be in the mountain rescue in my younger years and we never minded being called out for situations like this. You never know, it could have worked out a lot worse. Hence it was never problem. However, the diesel for the landies needed topping up etc. and that all came out of the tiny budget we had.
Cheers
Ian
You wouldn't normally be billed.
But do consider that the majority of Mountain Rescue teams are funded via donations only. So might be a nice thing to do to contribute something to them, even if it is only a token payment.
I used to be in the mountain rescue in my younger years and we never minded being called out for situations like this. You never know, it could have worked out a lot worse. Hence it was never problem. However, the diesel for the landies needed topping up etc. and that all came out of the tiny budget we had.
Cheers
Ian
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Nice idea PG the reason i ask is in this day & age if you require an ambulance after you've been in an accident im sure ive read somewhere that they recover there cost from you so i assumed the police would try the same.
Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
Andy
Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
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Originally Posted by Andy McCord
Nice idea PG the reason i ask is in this day & age if you require an ambulance after you've been in an accident im sure ive read somewhere that they recover there cost from you so i assumed the police would try the same.
Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
Andy
Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
Andy
Cancel Christmas, birthdays and pocket money for a year, and donate what you would have spent on him... bet that'll teach him!
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An old car of mine caught fire back in about 1999, I called the fire brigade out at about 5am who came and sorted it, everyone included my dad told me Id be charged for it but I didnt hear anything.
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Originally Posted by Andy McCord
this is exactly what my thoughts were, you can imagine what the cost of an helicopter would be
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Originally Posted by davegtt
But surely isnt that why we pay Taxes? So the government can look after us all in cases like these? thats how I see it anyhow.
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There is an argument that call-outs that are cuased by sheer stupidity should be charged for. There is equally a theory the lad should suffer some penalty for charging off, although getting lost might be sufficient!
Not sure why RTA health costs are recoverable because in that case surely if you hurt yourself cycling, fell walking, wind surfing etc you should be charged health costs. Presumably though the difference is that there is insurance in most RTAs?
Not sure why RTA health costs are recoverable because in that case surely if you hurt yourself cycling, fell walking, wind surfing etc you should be charged health costs. Presumably though the difference is that there is insurance in most RTAs?
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Originally Posted by Chrisgr31
There is an argument that call-outs that are cuased by sheer stupidity should be charged for. There is equally a theory the lad should suffer some penalty for charging off, although getting lost might be sufficient!
Not sure why RTA health costs are recoverable because in that case surely if you hurt yourself cycling, fell walking, wind surfing etc you should be charged health costs. Presumably though the difference is that there is insurance in most RTAs?
Not sure why RTA health costs are recoverable because in that case surely if you hurt yourself cycling, fell walking, wind surfing etc you should be charged health costs. Presumably though the difference is that there is insurance in most RTAs?
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Originally Posted by OllyK
FWIW, my guess would be that in an RTA you are (or should be) insured and so they expect you to pass the bill on as an uninsured loss.
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As an ex SAR pilot I can confirm that we only ever billed one person for a callout. Even though 90% were down to stupidity, sometimes bordering on criminal negligence.
The one we billed was to make a point - no expectation of it being paid. The bloke billed us for not recovering the airbed that his daughter was on when we hauled her out of the water about 8 miles () offshore... I forget exactly how long we were looking for, bt I do know that one more search pattern was it before we had to recover. And the next land she'd have hit was the Azores...
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
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The one we billed was to make a point - no expectation of it being paid. The bloke billed us for not recovering the airbed that his daughter was on when we hauled her out of the water about 8 miles () offshore... I forget exactly how long we were looking for, bt I do know that one more search pattern was it before we had to recover. And the next land she'd have hit was the Azores...
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
SB
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I bet the kid ran off just to get a ride in the chopper?
I hope a donation was made, I saw on TV that coastguard programme and this guy gave the lifeguards a big crate of beer as a thank you.
With mountain resuce they might like a donation of hot cocoa and some thinsulate gloves.
I hope a donation was made, I saw on TV that coastguard programme and this guy gave the lifeguards a big crate of beer as a thank you.
With mountain resuce they might like a donation of hot cocoa and some thinsulate gloves.
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As an ex SAR pilot I can confirm that we only ever billed one person for a callout. Even though 90% were down to stupidity, sometimes bordering on criminal negligence.
The one we billed was to make a point - no expectation of it being paid. The bloke billed us for not recovering the airbed that his daughter was on when we hauled her out of the water about 8 miles () offshore... I forget exactly how long we were looking for, bt I do know that one more search pattern was it before we had to recover. And the next land she'd have hit was the Azores...
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
The one we billed was to make a point - no expectation of it being paid. The bloke billed us for not recovering the airbed that his daughter was on when we hauled her out of the water about 8 miles () offshore... I forget exactly how long we were looking for, bt I do know that one more search pattern was it before we had to recover. And the next land she'd have hit was the Azores...
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
I would of offered to take the father on a flight to find the airbed. Then chucked the w@nker out at least 8 miles offshore straight into the sea
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Originally Posted by Sbradley
The bloke billed us for not recovering the airbed that his daughter was on when we hauled her out of the water about 8 miles () offshore... I forget exactly how long we were looking for, bt I do know that one more search pattern was it before we had to recover. And the next land she'd have hit was the Azores...
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
SB
He didn't even thank us for bringing a cold, frightened but alive eight year old back. Just hand-wrote a bill for £4.99 for the airbed. So the liaison officer at the hospital wrote him a bill for, if I remember rightly, about £7000. Plus VAT.
Made me feel a bit better, anyway...
SB
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Originally Posted by Andy McCord
Nice idea PG the reason i ask is in this day & age if you require an ambulance after you've been in an accident im sure ive read somewhere that they recover there cost from you so i assumed the police would try the same.
Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
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Ian, ive mentioned to him about some sort of donation.
Andy
The fire brigade charge if you call them out for a non-emergency (like you've locked yourself out or your cat's stuck up a tree), but they never normally charge anything if a young child is involved or it is a potentially life-threatening situation.
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Originally Posted by The Rani
The fire brigade charge if you call them out for a non-emergency (like you've locked yourself out or your cat's stuck up a tree), but they never normally charge anything if a young child is involved or it is a potentially life-threatening situation.
Also I know the local fire station to me used training time to fix our office roof. One of the girls i worked with knew one of the fire crew. The following day the police came to repair a window! lol
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I remember once getting stuck in a lift (bit pissed and started bouncing up and down in it, all of a sudden *clunk* it grinds to a halt ) When the firebrigade came along and hauled me out I made it my business to take them down the pub and buy them a drink each. Under normal circumstances, they had to refuse, but they were 20 minutes away from knocking off for the evening so the radios came out and "Uh, yeah, 20 minute delay guv"
It weren't much but it made me feel better.
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It weren't much but it made me feel better.
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Originally Posted by The Rani
The costs are normally recovered from the insurance companies in these circumstances.
The fire brigade charge if you call them out for a non-emergency (like you've locked yourself out or your cat's stuck up a tree), but they never normally charge anything if a young child is involved or it is a potentially life-threatening situation.
The fire brigade charge if you call them out for a non-emergency (like you've locked yourself out or your cat's stuck up a tree), but they never normally charge anything if a young child is involved or it is a potentially life-threatening situation.
Normally if it is a lock out there will be no charge if the home owner were to be worried about the risk of fire ie. Left the iron/oven on . Down to the gaffer at the time or indeed if they are being continually turned out to such calls.
As for the smoke alarms ect. Haven’t you heard ? Education is the future !! We are now primarily educators of community fire safety and now the management see putting out fires as an inconvenience !!
The roof ????????
Perhaps under the remit of “rendering humanitarian services” ??