Do people think they have priority over cyclists...
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...when it comes to giving way in the same way as cars?
I was coming up to a mini roundabout on my bicycle and stopped to give way to cars coming from the right. Then, when there were no more cars from the right, I pulled out onto the roundabout. First a Land Rover Freelander charges across, possibly quite fairly as I was nowhere near that side of the roundabout at the time, but then a woman in a Ford Fiesta, who has quite obviously seen me as I made eye contact with her, decides to carry on onto the roundabout heading straight for the side of me. She screeches to a stop about a foot away from my bike, and then has the cheek to give me the middle finger!!! Being 15 I try and ride on the pavement wherever safe (ie when there are no pedestrians) but around the roundabout there were none.
Why do people not understand that you still have to give way to bicycles?
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I was coming up to a mini roundabout on my bicycle and stopped to give way to cars coming from the right. Then, when there were no more cars from the right, I pulled out onto the roundabout. First a Land Rover Freelander charges across, possibly quite fairly as I was nowhere near that side of the roundabout at the time, but then a woman in a Ford Fiesta, who has quite obviously seen me as I made eye contact with her, decides to carry on onto the roundabout heading straight for the side of me. She screeches to a stop about a foot away from my bike, and then has the cheek to give me the middle finger!!! Being 15 I try and ride on the pavement wherever safe (ie when there are no pedestrians) but around the roundabout there were none.
Why do people not understand that you still have to give way to bicycles?
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There is too much guesswork with cyclists, they seem to want the highway code to apply to them when it suits, but seem quite happy to ignore it as well. The times I have seen cyclists with no lights, jump red lights, swerve across the road and mount the pavement, ride on the pavement, neglect to signal their intentions and most common of all not actually look at all before performing a manoeveur, it amazes me that there are any alive on the road at all.
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And yes I do cycle.
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There is a very odd (not to mention dangerous) view amongst a certain group of motorists that as cyclists don't pay road tax (why would we), then cars have priority in any situation. I have been in several situations where cars haven't given way to me as a cyclist, even why it has been clear that they can see me (not being seen is obviously another danger in itself...)
The main problem is that if you brave it out against a car, you're the one who'll end up in A&E or the morgue, and being in the right won't bring you back to life. Just ride with a touch of self-preservation!
The main problem is that if you brave it out against a car, you're the one who'll end up in A&E or the morgue, and being in the right won't bring you back to life. Just ride with a touch of self-preservation!
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Originally Posted by OllyK
There is too much guesswork with cyclists, they seem to want the highway code to apply to them when it suits, but seem quite happy to ignore it as well. The times I have seen cyclists with no lights, jump red lights, swerve across the road and mount the pavement, ride on the pavement, neglect to signal their intentions and most common of all not actually look at all before performing a manoeveur, it amazes me that there are any alive on the road at all.
And yes I do cycle.
And yes I do cycle.
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Originally Posted by Mungo
The same can be said of the group "motorists" - there are good and bad, and it's unfair to tar everybody with the same brush.
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Yes I'm generalising, but you don't need to pass a test to ride a bike on the road, and in general as a cyclist I'm appauled at the standard of riding on the roads, and not just by kids.
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Originally Posted by John Catlin
Depends how you define TRAFFIC - I'd assume that included cyclists.
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I have to agree that the general standard of riding is very bad, and often dangerous. I always try and see my cycling from the view of others on the road and predict what others are going to do. It is very difficult to predict what others are going to do if they wont follow the highway code.
I ride on the pavement sometimes in heavy traffic if there are no pedestrians around as it is legal for me to do so and it is safer for me.
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I ride on the pavement sometimes in heavy traffic if there are no pedestrians around as it is legal for me to do so and it is safer for me.
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
I ride on the pavement sometimes in heavy traffic if there are no pedestrians around as it is legal for me to do so and it is safer for me.
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When i talked to my local council they said it is legal for anyone under 18 to ride on the pavement as long as they are not riding dangerously or without due care.
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
...then a woman in a Ford Fiesta
She was probably concentrating on something more important - Like how her nails were or something else.
Women can't drive. Assume this and you'll survive longer.
ps The only thing more dangerous is an old man in a flat cap
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I will give way to cyclist when they start obeying the laws of the roads, I lose count of the times I see cyclists jump red lights ride on the pavement and generally cause mayhem when I am out and about in the city of London.
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The police cyclists ride on the pavements!
I used to ride a bike to get to and from work, and now you wouldnt catch me on a bike for love nor money! I've had my fair share of near misses and warnings!
Been a car driver i can now see what a problem cyclists are to motorists and you get some idiots cycling along double breast or cycling three foot away from the kerb!
I used to ride a bike to get to and from work, and now you wouldnt catch me on a bike for love nor money! I've had my fair share of near misses and warnings!
Been a car driver i can now see what a problem cyclists are to motorists and you get some idiots cycling along double breast or cycling three foot away from the kerb!
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Originally Posted by SCOsazOBY
Been a car driver i can now see what a problem cyclists are to motorists and you get some idiots cycling along double breast or cycling three foot away from the kerb!
Scooby drivers get annoyed when they are all steriotypically considered boy racers (this annoys my dad greatly), so why tar all cyclists with the same brush? Be aware of what cyclists could do, but dont automatically think they are going to do something stupid!
There were two middle aged ladies in the car (brand new base spec fiesta), which is probably the worst combination! (most hypocrital comment ive ever made considering ive just been ranting about steriotyping!
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
When i talked to my local council they said it is legal for anyone under 18 to ride on the pavement as long as they are not riding dangerously or without due care.
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There is only one way to beat the cyclist, and that is to drop a gear, hang back behind them as this makes them curious and feel that they are slowing up the traffic, then give it some revs and overtake them
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
Indeed, as I said in the initial post!
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Damn - twice in 1 day!
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Originally Posted by SCOsazOBY
There is only one way to beat the cyclist, and that is to drop a gear, hang back behind them as this makes them curious and feel that they are slowing up the traffic, then give it some revs and overtake them ![Big Grin](https://www.scoobynet.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
There were two middle aged ladies in the car (brand new base spec fiesta), which is probably the worst combination! (most hypocrital comment ive ever made considering ive just been ranting about steriotyping!
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My comment was a bit sexist
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Yes I'm generalising, but you don't need to pass a test to ride a bike on the road, and in general as a cyclist I'm appauled at the standard of riding on the roads, and not just by kids.
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Originally Posted by phelpsa
Thats probably not the best way as it just intimidates the rider and then they slow down!
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Originally Posted by SCOsazOBY
Been a car driver i can now see what a problem cyclists are to motorists and you get some idiots cycling along double breast or cycling three foot away from the kerb!
IIRC the Highway Code, Roadcraft or some other driving manual, suggest that you give a cyclist as much room when overtaking as you would a car.
Please don't take the arrogant motorist attitude with cyclists as you'll end up killing somebody.
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Riding my bike recently up a quiet road a woman motorist who quite clearly saw me reversed out of her drive right in front of me causing me to do an emergency stop. When I asked her what the bloody hell she was doing she jumped out of her car and started shouting and screaming at me as though it had been my fault ?
She went absolutely mental until I asked her if riding a bike on this road carried the death sentence. This seemed to get through to her as she just shut up and got back in her car.......
My worst scare recently was an old dear in a Micra who overtook me and then cut in front of me...the rear of her car only missed me by about half an inch cos I hit my brakes....really scary
She went absolutely mental until I asked her if riding a bike on this road carried the death sentence. This seemed to get through to her as she just shut up and got back in her car.......
My worst scare recently was an old dear in a Micra who overtook me and then cut in front of me...the rear of her car only missed me by about half an inch cos I hit my brakes....really scary