Bring On Identity Cards!!
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Bring On Identity Cards!!
FFS lets stop messing about and get everyone with an ID Card.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
FFS lets stop messing about and get everyone with an ID Card.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
FFS lets stop messing about and get everyone with an ID Card.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by lozgti
Can't do the ID cards till Tony does the referendum on Europe.Did I miss it?
Personally, I think the pros outweigh the cons - just interested to know how the govt is going to fund it...
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Its so simple, so logical ........ get DNA from a crimescene and run it through the computer - BINGO!!!!!! Arrest made!!
If you can PROVE you were not there then you will have nothing to fear .... BUT, if your DNA is on my car windows and your fingerprints are on the ignition wires ..... then YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!!
Just imagine having details on all those pikeys who want to stay hidden??? EXCELLENT!!!!
Pete
If you can PROVE you were not there then you will have nothing to fear .... BUT, if your DNA is on my car windows and your fingerprints are on the ignition wires ..... then YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!!
Just imagine having details on all those pikeys who want to stay hidden??? EXCELLENT!!!!
Pete
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Good idea in theory - unfortunately given the government’s (all parties) ability to implement such projects it will be open to abuse by criminal elements, it will not be 100% accurate and will poorly implement and over budget !
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So all you need to do is swipe a used pint glass from a pub, which will include DNA and fingerprints, commit a serious crime, leave the evidence from the pint glass at the scene and you have committed the perfect crime.
Unlucky for the poor punter who used the glass, but what the hey, the crime clear up figures would be great!
Unlucky for the poor punter who used the glass, but what the hey, the crime clear up figures would be great!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Its so simple, so logical ........ get DNA from a crimescene and run it through the computer - BINGO!!!!!! Arrest made!!
If you can PROVE you were not there then you will have nothing to fear .... BUT, if your DNA is on my car windows and your fingerprints are on the ignition wires ..... then YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!!
Just imagine having details on all those pikeys who want to stay hidden??? EXCELLENT!!!!
Pete
If you can PROVE you were not there then you will have nothing to fear .... BUT, if your DNA is on my car windows and your fingerprints are on the ignition wires ..... then YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!!
Just imagine having details on all those pikeys who want to stay hidden??? EXCELLENT!!!!
Pete
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Originally Posted by pslewis
FFS lets stop messing about and get everyone with an ID Card.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
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What happened to the "innocent until proven guilty" bit
What about the recent story that broke that civil servants are selling personal information to criminal gangs?
What about the cost?
What about the total invasion of personal liberty?
What about the fact that EVERYONE has something to fear?
what about the fact that you will not be able to get a passport without and ID card?
What about the fact that you will be able to be tracked using that card and your personal life will be totally open to scrutiny?
Pete - you're a troll, go back to hiding under the bridge.
What about the recent story that broke that civil servants are selling personal information to criminal gangs?
What about the cost?
What about the total invasion of personal liberty?
What about the fact that EVERYONE has something to fear?
what about the fact that you will not be able to get a passport without and ID card?
What about the fact that you will be able to be tracked using that card and your personal life will be totally open to scrutiny?
Pete - you're a troll, go back to hiding under the bridge.
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Originally Posted by OllyK
Felix in a recent thread IIRC said that a DNA sample costs £1000 per time. Times by the 70 ish million in the country and you've got a 60 Billion bill before you buy the software, create the cards and put all the management round it.
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Originally Posted by Ray_li
the cost will drop when dealing with 70 million
Also consider that when collecting the DNA you need to know the ID of the person at that point, if they are already on false ID they can commit a crime and then you go off an pick up the person whose details you hold which will be the person whose Identity was stolen originally.
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It's not really in the spirit of this trolling thread, but...
For those of you who are opposed to ID cards, now is the time to renew your passport. Passports have now been designated registrable documents under the ID card legislation, so if you renew or apply for a passport after the effective date (yet to be announced but probably in 2007), you will have to give biometric data and can be required to have an interview with new and rather Orwellian-sounding UK Identity and Passport Office. You will be charged for this privilege, whether you apply for an ID card or not.
Renew as soon as you can, while it's still allowed. UKIPS has already been displaying contradictory and misleading messages on the website about when you can renew (answer: whenever you like) and the Home Office may well restrict renewal rights in future - particularly if lots of people want to do it.
More info here if you're interested: http://www.no2id.net/
For those of you who are opposed to ID cards, now is the time to renew your passport. Passports have now been designated registrable documents under the ID card legislation, so if you renew or apply for a passport after the effective date (yet to be announced but probably in 2007), you will have to give biometric data and can be required to have an interview with new and rather Orwellian-sounding UK Identity and Passport Office. You will be charged for this privilege, whether you apply for an ID card or not.
Renew as soon as you can, while it's still allowed. UKIPS has already been displaying contradictory and misleading messages on the website about when you can renew (answer: whenever you like) and the Home Office may well restrict renewal rights in future - particularly if lots of people want to do it.
More info here if you're interested: http://www.no2id.net/
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Originally Posted by pslewis
FFS lets stop messing about and get everyone with an ID Card.
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
Take DNA samples from everyone and fingerprints.
Crime will half overnight as an almost guaranteed clear-up rate will ensue.
Those who do not want a card or refuse to have one will be banged up for 5 years (due to the falling crime rate there will be room in the prisons) and will have their details and DNA taken anyway.
Lets get on with it!!!!!!!
Pete
you should be able to troll better than this puny effort
6/10 for effort, 4 given for spelling and grammar!
Must try harder.
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Originally Posted by Mark Miwurdz
'Losing it' infers he had something to lose in the first place.
now he's got the internet equivalent of repetitive stress disorder
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
(bookmarkes post for next time Jasey refers to my driving...)
Anyway - there's nothing wrong with your driving - just your orientation