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Old 04 July 2006, 10:08 PM
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Hi guys,

Went and played golf with some mates for a laugh a couple of months ago and now I'm hooked!!

Just wondered if anyone could recommend a good but cheap set of golf clubs, you manufacturer and price I'd appreciate it.

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you and get a full set of willson fat shafts 3i-sw from ebay for about £130
all depends how much you want to spend though. you could go the real cheap route and get a set of housens from argos for about 80/90 but to be honest they are crap. driver wise you can pick up a used calaway for about 80/100 or go for somthing like a ping g2 for about 130. used 5/7 wood about 40/60. a faily good make that is also quite cheap would be Masters. hope this helps.
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cheers for the advice.

do you know anything about Texan clubs or Prosimmon?

I just think £100 for a driver is a little steep, want to enjoy the game worrying that i've scratched my driver. lol.
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Same as you fella, Dad plays golf and bought me golf lessons as a christmas present, Hooked now. Get the magazine Todays Golfer that's the best on the market. I have bought some Ben Sayers MX7 Clubs cheap off ebay, Pretty good clubs for the price(£150)bag and everything included, and if you really get hooked like i am now you can trade them in against a better set at American Golf or Direct Golf. HTH
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just had a quick look on ebay mate full set of wilson pro staff driver 3&5 wood 3-sw and 2 hybreds £200 item no 330002312798. we use these as a starter set at the golf club i work at mate and for the money you cant beat them.
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Originally Posted by jonathan100
you and get a full set of willson fat shafts 3i-sw from ebay for about £130
all depends how much you want to spend though. you could go the real cheap route and get a set of housens from argos for about 80/90 but to be honest they are crap. driver wise you can pick up a used calaway for about 80/100 or go for somthing like a ping g2 for about 130. used 5/7 wood about 40/60. a faily good make that is also quite cheap would be Masters. hope this helps.
Don't go for Fat Shafts as far as i know Wilson is the only brand that do them, Ok Less torque on the strike but when you want to trade up for a better set of clubs you will struggle.
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Seen those ben sayers MX7.

They're the ones with the red and black stand bag?

Been playing every week on the 9 hole, you play the 18?
Playing with some old clubs my mate got me. Only cost £7, nice regency set of irons and pinseeker driver and woods. They are old and I'm worried a head'll come off and **** some kid!! ;-)

Want something to help me with my game too. The texan and prosimmon clubs are cheap and look ok. Just can't find a review anywhere.

I'll definitely check out the ben sayer clubs though cheers mate.
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Originally Posted by Slyme
Seen those ben sayers MX7.

They're the ones with the red and black stand bag?

Been playing every week on the 9 hole, you play the 18?
Playing with some old clubs my mate got me. Only cost £7, nice regency set of irons and pinseeker driver and woods. They are old and I'm worried a head'll come off and **** some kid!! ;-)

Want something to help me with my game too. The texan and prosimmon clubs are cheap and look ok. Just can't find a review anywhere.

I'll definitely check out the ben sayer clubs though cheers mate.
Yeah there the ones Red and Black bag, Dad plays with Callaways Big Berthas and was well impressed with the quality of the Ben Sayers so says something as he has been playing going on 40 years.Only had one game so far spent six month's on the driving range, But the game was last thursday and i beat the old fella.

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I can recommend RAM Concept X sets (from Ebay or American Golf, somewhere like that).

I bought some after playing with my Dads old spare set for a year or so and they cost about 220 quid for the full set with graphite shafts (1-3-5W, 3Hybrid, 4-si, putter, bag with stand, etc.). They are really good clubs, even the pro at my old mans club (Ascot) was impressed with them for the cost. They have had lots of good reviews.

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worth going to a driving range pro to take a look at your swing, might sound a bit overkill but he/she'll be able to tell you what sort of shaft you'll need (normal,stiff etc.)

same thing with drivers, there's various lofts to choose from.

won't turn you into tiger woods, but it might stop you buying a set that will be no good for your swing and you'll struggle.

saying all that, you won't go far wrong with a regular shaft across the board.

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The premium brands like Ping, Mizuno, Callaway, Taylor Made spend a fortune on marketing, sponsorship and also research and development so new they are expensive.

My opinion is you are better off with a 4/5 year old set of the above than a new set of Pinseekers or the like. (there are companies that manufacture look a like clubs but they really aren't very good).
E-bay will give you loads of choice.

Make sure the irons are cavity backed not blades.

You can pick up a decent driver for £40 again, I would go for a top name. (the bigger headed drivers are easier to hit, bigger sweet spot)
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As above, pick a cavity back set to learn with.

Try www.direct-golf.co.uk they are one of the better online retailers at the moment and often have deals on sets of clubs.

Best of luck, enjoy the game its a biatch
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dunlop 65i graphite shafts,1,3,5 metal woods 3 - 9 irons pitching wedge,sand wedge,putter,bag with bag stand and umbrella, £75 festival park ebbw vale http://www.festivalshopping.co.uk/
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www.golfbidder.co.uk sell secondhand or demo gear alternatively talk to one of your local course pro's - they often have some trade-ins. You dont need new stuff when starting out.
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Originally Posted by druddle
I can recommend RAM Concept X sets (from Ebay or American Golf, somewhere like that).

I bought some after playing with my Dads old spare set for a year or so and they cost about 220 quid for the full set with graphite shafts (1-3-5W, 3Hybrid, 4-si, putter, bag with stand, etc.). They are really good clubs, even the pro at my old mans club (Ascot) was impressed with them for the cost. They have had lots of good reviews.

Dave
Concept X's are last years, concepts V's are the new ones this season.

I'm in exactly the same club, just started playing and I'm hooked.

Going to American Golf this afternoon to try out the Rams. seen them for £170 on the net.

The sales guy is going to have a good laugh, I've only been playing for a month and majority of the time I miss hit the ball.
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Originally Posted by Recaro
Concept X's are last years, concepts V's are the new ones this season.

I'm in exactly the same club, just started playing and I'm hooked.

Going to American Golf this afternoon to try out the Rams. seen them for £170 on the net.

The sales guy is going to have a good laugh, I've only been playing for a month and majority of the time I miss hit the ball.
American Golf used to do a price match, so if you take a print out of the price and the website and choose to buy through AG then you should get the cheaper price.
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The sales guy is going to have a good laugh, I've only been playing for a month and majority of the time I miss hit the ball.[/quote]

Hey when i'd only been playing a month the majority of the time i was missing the ball
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Look all this advice is all well and good, but you might as well cut out the middle man and go and buy an expensive set now and be done with it, believe me, you will anyway

Be prepared for a lifetime of spending!

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Here's my advice: Get a set of hybrids. You won't be able to hit long irons until you're much more skilled, and even the pros are using hybrids now. And if you're just starting out, you could get away with a half set if you can find one.

You'll also have trouble hitting a big-headed driver, so maybe just get a 3-wood. It won't go as far, but it'll be straighter.

So I'd go for 3-wood, maybe 5-wood, 3i/4i/5i hybrid, then 6-PW irons, cavity backed, and a sand wedge and putter. If you want a half-set, drop the even-numbered clubs. If you're going to spend, it might be best to do so on the putter as you'll play at least half your strokes with that. On the other hand, the putter is the club you'll lose confidence in most easily, so after a few years you'll probably have a collection of putters in your garage.


As fitzscoob says, Direct Golf are doing some good deals at the moment. I think they have the Founders Club hybrid packages, and they also recently bought the John Letters company (who were on the brink of receivership) and have a lot of old John Letters stock to clear. John Letters were a proper Scottish golf club manufacturer who've been going for ages, so they should be pretty good. I guess they'll be made in China from now on (like my Nike 3-wood).

You probably don't want graphite shafts just yet either. Graphite-shafted drivers are used because you can't make a steel shaft long enough (it would be too thin at the bottom or too fat at the top). But they have different torque characteristics and personally I'm not a fan. Nearly everyone has steel-shafted irons.

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Some good advice there carl

I can hit the ball straight with an iron (distance is crap but I'm happier watching the ball travel straight) but when i have a go with a big headed driver, its terrible, distance but normally off to the right. Don't think I've tried the 3 wood but I will now.
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Get a half set - I regulary take my 3,4,5,7,9 Irons for a walk - I could probably sell them as new after two years of ownership .

By a decent Putter - much more important than any other club in you bag !

And American Golf do custome fitting - which is supposed to be really good - especially for beginners .
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Dont buy Hybrids, they are **** and you will improve out of them in no time and pro's arn't using them.

Scrappy9 had it right in that the top brands really are much better and spend a lot of money on R&D. Your much better getting a 2-3 year old set of Mizuno irons, they are by far the best irons on the market. If you want brand new then Benross make great clubs and the heads and shafts come from the Callaway factory!! Very good value for money.


You probably don't want graphite shafts just yet either. Graphite-shafted drivers are used because you can't make a steel shaft long enough (it would be too thin at the bottom or too fat at the top). But they have different torque characteristics and personally I'm not a fan
Rubbish, you can get Steel shafts in drivers but graphite is much more forgiving and better.

chipping and putting is vital so spend 80% of your practice here

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once you've been playing a while you'll quickly realise that your play is determined almost entirely by your Brain and the clubs you are using have little or no effect on your eventual score

But it is great fun - apparently
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555

chipping and putting is vital so spend 80% of your practice here
Chipping is killing me, absolute hell for me at the moment - I will be speaking to my pro again soon about this.

One other thing, if you are learning to play golf, make sure you have a good sense of humour
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Originally Posted by scoobygav555
Dont buy Hybrids, they are **** and you will improve out of them in no time and pro's arn't using them.
I watched the tournament on the US tour that immediately preceded the US Masters (I forget what it was) and on one hole nearly every player was hitting a hybrid from the fairway over about 220 yards of water to the green. They needed the distance but also the high flight.
Edit: a bit of research reveals the tournament in question must have been the Bellsouth Classic

Rubbish, you can get Steel shafts in drivers but graphite is much more forgiving and better.
This shows a very limited understanding of the technology. If it's "better" why do the tour players play with steel-shafted irons? Fact is that you can make a graphite shaft longer, and longer means the clubhead is travelling faster. But it torques up completely differently (as the load is perpendicular to the direction of the fibres), so you may need regular steel shafts but stiff graphites. It means you can put more weight in the clubhead and less in the shaft, but it can feel kind of "dead" when you hit it.

Do you think a beginner will really be able to control a 460cc clubhead on a 46" shaft? It's simple leverage -- the clubhead is going faster but any unwanted movements at the grip end are going to translate into a bigger error at the clubhead end.

One more piece of advice: consistency is everything. I think I have parred or birdied every hole at my course, but I can't string 18 of them together in the same round. You can play a hole like a pro, then carve the next drive 150 yards right into the trees.

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Hi, I have some almost new fake Taylormade clubs. Fake in that they are made somewhere oversees and sold to fools as the real thing ;-)

They look the part and play really well, I suppose someone with a low handicap would know the difference, but I play to about 16 and they have been fine for me.

It's a full set of irons, woods, and I'll throw in a old putter of mine.

All yours for £50 + p&p.
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Originally Posted by hail-hail
Hi, I have some almost new fake Taylormade clubs. Fake in that they are made somewhere oversees and sold to fools as the real thing ;-)
What, unlike the real Taylormade clubs which are made in China?
In fact nearly all clubs are made in China, except Pings which are still made in the USA, Mizunos where the heads are made in Japan (then shipped to China to be attached to the shafts and grips) and John Letters which were made in Scotland but couldn't compete with the cheap Chinese prices.
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hail-hail - where in the uk are you?
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hail-hail - where in the uk are you?
I live in Scotland, but work in Frimley at the moment, so clubs can be in either place
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Originally Posted by carl
What, unlike the real Taylormade clubs which are made in China?
In fact nearly all clubs are made in China, except Pings which are still made in the USA, Mizunos where the heads are made in Japan (then shipped to China to be attached to the shafts and grips) and John Letters which were made in Scotland but couldn't compete with the cheap Chinese prices.
I'm pretty sure Wilson still make clubs in Scotland, the head office is in Irvine


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