A question for Religious Experts...
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A question for Religious Experts...
What religion do you follow?
Where in your religious scripture does it say that the Earth is round/oval in the spherical sense?
(BTW, I am not claiming the the earth is actually round/oval or otherwise and therefore do not want it to be the point of this discussion).
Ta.
Where in your religious scripture does it say that the Earth is round/oval in the spherical sense?
(BTW, I am not claiming the the earth is actually round/oval or otherwise and therefore do not want it to be the point of this discussion).
Ta.
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Do I smell a Koran comment coming on?
Theories of the earth being spherical pre-date virtually all the religious texts. Eratosthenes estimated the diameter to within 2% in 200BC.
And he wasn't the first to think that obviously.
Pythagoras in 500BC
Theories of the earth being spherical pre-date virtually all the religious texts. Eratosthenes estimated the diameter to within 2% in 200BC.
And he wasn't the first to think that obviously.
Pythagoras in 500BC
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Originally Posted by Geezer
What is the point of your question?
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
Do I smell a Koran comment coming on?
Theories of the earth being spherical pre-date virtually all the religious texts. Eratosthenes estimated the diameter to within 2% in 200BC.
And he wasn't the first to think that obviously.
Theories of the earth being spherical pre-date virtually all the religious texts. Eratosthenes estimated the diameter to within 2% in 200BC.
And he wasn't the first to think that obviously.
My understanding is that the Koran and Bible do not imply anywhere that the Earth is spherical. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
There's something in the Bible about God "setting his compass upon the earth" which seems to imply that he drew a 2D circle upon it.
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Originally Posted by akshay67
What is your point here? Can you answer the question? The question is not whether the Earth is spherical or not
My understanding is that the Koran and Bible do not imply anywhere that the Earth is spherical. I could be wrong though.
My understanding is that the Koran and Bible do not imply anywhere that the Earth is spherical. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by akshay67
What is your point here? Can you answer the question? The question is not whether the Earth is spherical or not
My understanding is that the Koran and Bible do not imply anywhere that the Earth is spherical. I could be wrong though.
My understanding is that the Koran and Bible do not imply anywhere that the Earth is spherical. I could be wrong though.
Islam can take credit for re-introducing the idea to Europe, where Christians thought the spherical Earth was a Pagan idea, but they really only acted as a vehicle for people like Ptolemy.
But there is nothing in Christian religious texts that says whether the world is spherical or not.
Edit to add : No proof existed until 1597 when Sir Francis Drake proved it was round.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Not more ****e about Muslims, leave it alone, perhaps if we ignore them they might go away ?
Careful, Jacko, that's a highly controversial viewpoint.
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
There's something in the Bible about God "setting his compass upon the earth" which seems to imply that he drew a 2D circle upon it.
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Why is it contraversial ?
Sometimes works with my kids, anyway, I am tolerant and fully diversified but am sick to the **** of hearing about Muslim this and Muslim that, the Hindu's and Sikhs just get on with it so why cant the Muslim's (or a small percentage therof, respect to all peaceful and moderate Muslims)
I really dont think that its all about Bush n Blair either, do you think all this **** would stop if America and the UK pulled out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I think they have a taste for it now, I think that they would seek retribution for years whatever happens.
Sometimes works with my kids, anyway, I am tolerant and fully diversified but am sick to the **** of hearing about Muslim this and Muslim that, the Hindu's and Sikhs just get on with it so why cant the Muslim's (or a small percentage therof, respect to all peaceful and moderate Muslims)
I really dont think that its all about Bush n Blair either, do you think all this **** would stop if America and the UK pulled out of Afghanistan and Iraq, I think they have a taste for it now, I think that they would seek retribution for years whatever happens.
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Originally Posted by KiwiGTI
The point is that Muslims often say the Koran is the word of God because it says things that no human at the time could have known. One of these points is that the world is spherical, which is of course complete rubbish because it was thought to be spherical by many people and theoretically proven by the people I mentioned.
My understanding was that the Archiles heel of modern religion is that they all claim that the earth is flat.
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Originally Posted by akshay67
Is that true? Could you, or anyone else, please point out where in the Koran it says this?
My understanding was that the Archiles heel of modern religion is that they all claim that the earth is flat.
My understanding was that the Archiles heel of modern religion is that they all claim that the earth is flat.
"It is He Who created night and day and the sun and moon, each one swimming in a sphere." Qur'an 21:33.
"No! I swear by the planets-that recede, that ride their course [and] hide themselves." Qur'an 81: 15-16.
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I have worked with a few Jehovah's Witnesses and had some fabulous philosophical arguments with them on the validity of their religion and moral viewpoints. I remember one of them biting big time and going on this rant which I distinctly remember him including how the Old Testament states that the Earth is spherical.
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Originally Posted by Daz34
I have worked with a few Jehovah's Witnesses and had some fabulous philosophical arguments with them on the validity of their religion and moral viewpoints and I remember one of them biting big time and going on this rant which I distinctly remember him including how the Old Testament states that the Earth is spherical.
If it doesn't say what they want it to say in one version, then they translate it so that it does in their own. The JW's even insist that JC was impaled, not crucified, regardless of the widespread Roman punitive practice.