NotoriousREV

No, not about the whole Jewish thing but he started the "Joy Through Work" movement that basically meant that if you were able to work but couldn't find a job you were put to work for the government, either building cars/war machines or on some other such project instead of getting handouts. Would this be a viable option today?

DCI Gene Hunt

The majority were put to work building roads! and it would appear that they still have a rather nice road network..............

OllyK

I'm all for it.

Bubba po

When I was a young man in the unemployment-blighted eighties, there was a scheme called the "Community Programme", which was pretty much the very thing you're on about.

DCI Gene Hunt

Never heard of it..... are you sure it wasn't community service you were on?

Drunken Bungle Whore

Building cars only really works if someone's going to buy them - isn't that what Rover discovered....? And I wasn't aware that we needed war machines just now.....

Also - I'm not sure that forcing people to do jobs that have a safety related aspect is the greatest idea. "Hop into this F1-11 - it was built by a bunch of p1ssed off no hopers who were told they had to work or have their benefits stopped - but I'm sure they did a great job!"

I'm not against the general idea per se - there are too many people who get away with saying "I'm looking for a job, honest" when claiming benefits and sitting on their backsides doing nothing.

Chris L

The Labour government of the 70s tried it. Ask anyone who worked for a state-owned industry at that time. British Steel, for example, was probably employing at least 4 people for every job that existed.

The current government just uses agencies, quangos and government departments to do the same thing! Last time I read the stats, 1 in 10 people now work for the government in the UK. OK, it makes the unemployment figures look better, but I can't believe it does people any good - if anything it probably has the reverse effect!

Hitler was just trying to win quick popular support. Germany was in a mess when he came to power. His short term fixes did nothing to cure the underlying problems of the country and we all know what his other motives were.

Stainy

Anybody who is on 'benefits' should be made to work for them. Even if the 'work' consists of turning up somewhere and sitting in a seat for 8 hours.

How else is someone who can lie in bed festering all day then get up whenever and do whatever they want going to be motivated to go to work for an extra few quid a week over the benefit amount.

Entitled to benefits yes. Entitled to lounge about all day everyday for them **** right off you lazy tw@t

Motivate them to WANT a job not pay lip service to wanting one

myblackwrx

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The problem is that it's too easy to get benefits.
Motivate them to get jobs by cutting off their benefits after 3 months.
You could pay them a minimum wage to clean up the streets, roads and parks

Leslie

The F1-11 was not a very safe aeroplane from what I was told by its pilots in the US.

Les

J4CKO

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Cant have been that bad Les if they told you about it !

Iwan

IMO there were some things that Hitler did/said that made a lot of sense, other things were less sensible.

warrenm2

In the US they have a system (introduced by Clinton in 1996) where you can only have benefits for 5 years - employment rates have miraculously soared!

Bubba po

"Hee hee", he intoned mirthlessly. It was run by the Manpower Services Commission.

_RIP_

Job Seekaa

SteveScooby

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Give them a job litter picking, cleaning up graffiti etc etc, there's way too many people in this country tat are willing to be victims and let the state pay them through life. If you don't work you shouldn't get any money simple.
Job seekers allowance my ****, bollox to em, get a job dole scum

Chip Sengravy

Bobba po, in the seventies, yesteryear:

SteveScooby

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Fireman

Chip Sengravy

Joiner

Bubba po

Rock Star

_RIP_

Shark Man

With the state of our streets thay can be street cleaners.

How come every "nice" city in most of the world can afford to wash down their streets every night/morning, yet very few UK cities get such a privilidge, and if they do, only on the main high street "drag".

Also forced military service sorting out Iraq might do some good

Or what about basic data entry in some low level cilvil purpose (tax returns etc). All it needs is someone who can read and hit a few buttons on a keyboard, use a parallel double entry system to erradicate errors (soemthing the DVLA desperately needs with their workers on full pay).

And seeing the goverment are handing out £500 subsidies for people to buy push bikes to go to work on...how about getting the dole wallers to build them on the cheap instead and scrap the cash subsidies.

Also seeing M6 Aston section is being resurfaced <again> How about running it as a 24hour operation and using dole wallers as the basic labour, and get the job done twice as quick with half the cost.

_RIP_

Shark Man

Well it may make a good motivation factor to make more active in finding employment

_RIP_

You dont mean the ones with "stress and anxiety" though? Or the alcoholics, or drug addicted (insert one of a million others) Surely not

Chip Sengravy

Brazil has the right idea.

_RIP_

********

Chip Sengravy

no, death squads

_RIP_

Shark Man

Better off them being over there as they have no use here.

They maybe useless at keeping the peace, but we wouldn't bother giving them any weapons anyway <insert red tape excuse here>.....

Obviously there would be an opt out clause (to protect peoples human rights, of course ), which substitutes the goverment payout and miltary role in Iraq for a nice cardboard box and a ration for gruel at the local soup kitchen.