Son with behaviur problems
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Son with behaviur problems
For some time now, my 4 year old son has had difficult behaviour and has seen many different paediatricians about it, though as he is not yet 5 I cannot have an official diagnosis just yet, but it's looking like it is ADHD
What I want to know is, do children with ADHD have problems with going to the toilet?
My son has only just come out of night time nappies, but still has the odd accident, which I expect, but what has upset me recently is that he seems to think it is acceptable to pull down his pants and pee anywhere he feels like.
Recently he went behind the chair in the living room and pee'd into the toy box he has also gone out into the garden on many occasions and pee'd outside in different areas too, he has stood up in bed and pee'd up the wall and over the bed and today he has hidden behind the sofa and pee'd not once but twice
I didn't know if this kind of behaviour is connected in any way to ADHD / ADD
I can't see him doing it just out of lazyness as it is more trouble to squeeze behind furniture than to go up the stairs to the loo I don't see the logic.
I don't know what to do, I have made him do time out for it and tried to explain how dirty it is and that I want him to use the loo like everyone else, but if I get angry at him, I think it will just make it happen more as he will be getting the attention/ reaction from me for doing it, which is why I opted for the calmer approach. If I threaten him with wearing nappies, he's likely to ask me for one so he doesn't have to worry about when/where he pee's
Maybe it's something worth mentioning to the doctor on his next appointment ?.
Should I be worried about this or will it stop as he gets older ?
What I want to know is, do children with ADHD have problems with going to the toilet?
My son has only just come out of night time nappies, but still has the odd accident, which I expect, but what has upset me recently is that he seems to think it is acceptable to pull down his pants and pee anywhere he feels like.
Recently he went behind the chair in the living room and pee'd into the toy box he has also gone out into the garden on many occasions and pee'd outside in different areas too, he has stood up in bed and pee'd up the wall and over the bed and today he has hidden behind the sofa and pee'd not once but twice
I didn't know if this kind of behaviour is connected in any way to ADHD / ADD
I can't see him doing it just out of lazyness as it is more trouble to squeeze behind furniture than to go up the stairs to the loo I don't see the logic.
I don't know what to do, I have made him do time out for it and tried to explain how dirty it is and that I want him to use the loo like everyone else, but if I get angry at him, I think it will just make it happen more as he will be getting the attention/ reaction from me for doing it, which is why I opted for the calmer approach. If I threaten him with wearing nappies, he's likely to ask me for one so he doesn't have to worry about when/where he pee's
Maybe it's something worth mentioning to the doctor on his next appointment ?.
Should I be worried about this or will it stop as he gets older ?
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certainly not "normal" i would have thought. My youngest is 3 in a few weeks and doesnt wear nappys at all. Gets up at night and goes to the loo if he needs to on his own and......well, he would be in BIG trouble if he went in the lounge!!!! (not sure the calm approach would be used in that instance!)
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Originally Posted by The Snug Rhino
certainly not "normal" i would have thought. My youngest is 3 in a few weeks and doesnt wear nappys at all. Gets up at night and goes to the loo if he needs to on his own and......well, he would be in BIG trouble if he went in the lounge!!!! (not sure the calm approach would be used in that instance!)
I am concerned about how my son just goes and does it, he has to pull his pants down, so it's not like he's wetting, I'm sure he knows it's wrong too
He has terrible tempers, that result in horrendus verbal abuse and often objects get thrown and someone will get kicked or punched etc, it seems to come from no where too
I have tried to look on google for something that could link his problems to weeing but I can't seem to find anything
He's a strange one because he's both funny and loveable and he can be extremely loving too, but he's very noisy, doesn't seem to know how to be gentle or quiet, even when he gives you a hug he almost strangles you and headbutts you
He has a tendancy to run about like a lunatic, has no sense of danger AT ALL he climbs and jumps and is non stop from getting up until I put him to bed, but even then he's usually still awake at 11pm and wakes up in the night and early in the morning (5am ish) He is very noisy talking to himself (and his imaginary friend)
Half the time it's like he's away with the fairies too, he comes out with the most bizarre things and seems to have difficulty seperating reality from his day dreams (or whatever it may be) He also has no concept of time. Very hard to keep entertained a majority of the time too
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yet another reason not to have children
Also try cutting down on his `E` number intake. Little B@stards go mental when they're high on `E's`
Also try cutting down on his `E` number intake. Little B@stards go mental when they're high on `E's`
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yet another reason not to have children
Also try cutting down on his `E` number intake. Little B@stards go mental when they're high on `E's`
Also try cutting down on his `E` number intake. Little B@stards go mental when they're high on `E's`
sweets are checked to make sure on content etc, and fizzy pop is a no no too
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Blimey DK1 I feel for you.
But what's made me sit up and take notice is, except for the weeing , you are describing my 2 year old grandson. he has terrible mood swings and is a walking disaster zone.
What is it these days with these kids? We never used to hear about all this weird behaviour. My daughter is at her wits end with him.
I wish you luck. And hope that he settles down.
Just as an after thought. Have you heard of Quentin Willson ex Top Gear presenter ? His kiddie displayed really worrying symptoms and after spending quids and quids on various doctors and specialists, he finally took his son to an osteopath who specialised in treating children. It was discovered that the child had physical problems which no one had thus far noticed and which were causing him a great degree of pain. After just a few treatments the child became a different altogether nicer person.
Good luck.
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But what's made me sit up and take notice is, except for the weeing , you are describing my 2 year old grandson. he has terrible mood swings and is a walking disaster zone.
What is it these days with these kids? We never used to hear about all this weird behaviour. My daughter is at her wits end with him.
I wish you luck. And hope that he settles down.
Just as an after thought. Have you heard of Quentin Willson ex Top Gear presenter ? His kiddie displayed really worrying symptoms and after spending quids and quids on various doctors and specialists, he finally took his son to an osteopath who specialised in treating children. It was discovered that the child had physical problems which no one had thus far noticed and which were causing him a great degree of pain. After just a few treatments the child became a different altogether nicer person.
Good luck.
Yve
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http://www.mentalhealth.org.uk/profi...d_news&id=7928
Maybe the above will explain a little better.
Yve
Maybe the above will explain a little better.
Yve
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You've probably read this already, but if not, Wikipedia is always a good starting point
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADHD
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surely you need to be stronger and more disciplined with him! children are only what they are brought up to be! for god sake, you wouldnt put up with half that behaviour from an adult, why the hell put up with it from a child!!!!!!!!!!!
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All of these describe him perfectly
Hyperactivity-impulsive behavior
Fidgeting with hands or feet or squirming in seat
Leaving seat often, even when inappropriate
Running or climbing at inappropriate times
Difficulty in quiet play
Frequently feeling restless
Excessive speech
Mood swings
Answering a question before the speaker has finished
Failing to await one's turn
Interrupting the activities of others at inappropriate times
And these
Innattention
Trouble keeping attention focused during play or tasks
Appearing not to listen when spoken to
Failing to follow instructions or finish tasks
Excessive distractibility
Forgetfulness
Nothing mentions about problems peeing where they shouldn't though
Hyperactivity-impulsive behavior
Fidgeting with hands or feet or squirming in seat
Leaving seat often, even when inappropriate
Running or climbing at inappropriate times
Difficulty in quiet play
Frequently feeling restless
Excessive speech
Mood swings
Answering a question before the speaker has finished
Failing to await one's turn
Interrupting the activities of others at inappropriate times
And these
Innattention
Trouble keeping attention focused during play or tasks
Appearing not to listen when spoken to
Failing to follow instructions or finish tasks
Excessive distractibility
Forgetfulness
Nothing mentions about problems peeing where they shouldn't though
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Originally Posted by B9GLY
surely you need to be stronger and more disciplined with him! children are only what they are brought up to be! for god sake, you wouldnt put up with half that behaviour from an adult, why the hell put up with it from a child!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by D.K.1
All of these describe him perfectly
Hyperactivity-impulsive behavior
Fidgeting with hands or feet or squirming in seat
Leaving seat often, even when inappropriate
Running or climbing at inappropriate times
Difficulty in quiet play
Frequently feeling restless
Excessive speech
Mood swings
Answering a question before the speaker has finished
Failing to await one's turn
Interrupting the activities of others at inappropriate times
And these
Innattention
Trouble keeping attention focused during play or tasks
Appearing not to listen when spoken to
Failing to follow instructions or finish tasks
Excessive distractibility
Forgetfulness
Nothing mentions about problems peeing where they shouldn't though
Hyperactivity-impulsive behavior
Fidgeting with hands or feet or squirming in seat
Leaving seat often, even when inappropriate
Running or climbing at inappropriate times
Difficulty in quiet play
Frequently feeling restless
Excessive speech
Mood swings
Answering a question before the speaker has finished
Failing to await one's turn
Interrupting the activities of others at inappropriate times
And these
Innattention
Trouble keeping attention focused during play or tasks
Appearing not to listen when spoken to
Failing to follow instructions or finish tasks
Excessive distractibility
Forgetfulness
Nothing mentions about problems peeing where they shouldn't though
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Originally Posted by Shark Man
What's his diet?
Squash
fizzy drinks
Sweets
Bread
Junk/fast food
etc...
Squash
fizzy drinks
Sweets
Bread
Junk/fast food
etc...
Weak squash
Fizzy drinks are a big NO
No sweets (unless someone buys them and gives them him witthout me knowing)
I limit the chocolate/crisps etc they might have (They're kids, one off's are allowed )
Wholemeal bread
junk/fast food are rare
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Originally Posted by D.K.1
Not at all
Weak squash
Fizzy drinks are a big NO
No sweets (unless someone buys them and gives them him witthout me knowing)
I limit the chocolate/crisps etc they might have (They're kids, one off's are allowed )
Wholemeal bread
junk/fast food are rare
Weak squash
Fizzy drinks are a big NO
No sweets (unless someone buys them and gives them him witthout me knowing)
I limit the chocolate/crisps etc they might have (They're kids, one off's are allowed )
Wholemeal bread
junk/fast food are rare
No doubt you already do that anyway
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You have just described my 17 year old brother!! He's got a really bad case of ADHD, he's aggressive and has a really bad temper problem!! He's a nightmare to live with and I often don't feel safe being left a lone with him! For his age he's really strong and there isn't many people that would take him on, even my dad cause my brother just gets crazy and wouldn't hesitate to pick something up and hit him with it!
He just always wants attention and will make sure he makes enough noise so that everyone knows he's there!! (nightmare when I'm trying to watch something )
Your son is young and might grow out of it! Him peeing everywhere will be just for attention, he will know its wrong but will do it because he know's you will make a fuss out of it! Its hard not to get annoyed and not make a fuss over things, try and ignore it as much as you can. He will grow out of this peeing everywhere I'm sure! There are drugs they can take for this condition, my brother tried them for a while but they made him very depressed and he hated it so has stopped taking them! My brother got reffered to a local hospital and this is where we found out a lot more about ADHD. As much as you get annoyed with him you just have to remember that he has a condition, thats what I have to remember when I feel like I could kill my brother!!
After reading some of the comments that people have put on here it makes me mad because they have no idea what its like living with someone who has ADHD!
Hope you get things sorted!!
Carla..
He just always wants attention and will make sure he makes enough noise so that everyone knows he's there!! (nightmare when I'm trying to watch something )
Your son is young and might grow out of it! Him peeing everywhere will be just for attention, he will know its wrong but will do it because he know's you will make a fuss out of it! Its hard not to get annoyed and not make a fuss over things, try and ignore it as much as you can. He will grow out of this peeing everywhere I'm sure! There are drugs they can take for this condition, my brother tried them for a while but they made him very depressed and he hated it so has stopped taking them! My brother got reffered to a local hospital and this is where we found out a lot more about ADHD. As much as you get annoyed with him you just have to remember that he has a condition, thats what I have to remember when I feel like I could kill my brother!!
After reading some of the comments that people have put on here it makes me mad because they have no idea what its like living with someone who has ADHD!
Hope you get things sorted!!
Carla..
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Originally Posted by D.K.1
.......Maybe it's something worth mentioning to the doctor on his next appointment ?.
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Edited to ask whether paediatricians had offered any suggestions about discussing with his first school which must be imminent?
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I do ignore as much of his behaviour as I can and try and praise and give the attention for positive behaviour as this does seem to work, but he gets very over excited and over enthusiastic when you praise him LOL It does worry me that he may get worse as he gets older as he's scary now sometimes and I hate to imagine what he'll be like as a teenager when I might not be able to defend myself against him if he kicks off, he really is terrible sometimes but he really can't help it A lot of people when out in public etc put his behaviour down to just being naughty, but a majority of the time when he does things (bad or good) he doesn't realise that it could be wrong. He is unaware of possible dangers with a lot of things too and has ended up in casualty on many occasions because of this Everything is at 100mph with him all the time
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It might be an idea to get him allergy tested. My parents worked out fairly quickly that when they fed me tomatoes I would go on a 24 hour lunatic spree (mood swings/non stop talking/wrecking stuff/jumping about the place like I had overdosed on speed.) Funny thing is that 30 years later it still happens. Now I have a different view of acceptable boundaries, but after I eat tomatoes my wife says the only thing she can compare it to is the first few days after I gave up smoking. It is fairly easy to identify an allergy to something like tomatoes, but if he had an allergy to grain or dairy products then it might no be so easy to figure out
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Ignore him when he pees down the back of the sofa.....
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
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Fuzz - ignoring bad but attention seeking behaviour isn't namby pamby. It is the only way to deal with it. Sort of like ignoring Rabid. He only posts what he does to get people to respond. If everyone stops responding he will stop posting. While people keep arguing he will keep posting. As the man said - "Do not feed the trolls"
Aside from that - DK - you could always get a 12v cow fence and run it round the fabric in the sofa - next time he has a pee he will get a bit of a shock
Aside from that - DK - you could always get a 12v cow fence and run it round the fabric in the sofa - next time he has a pee he will get a bit of a shock
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Ignore him when he pees down the back of the sofa.....
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Ignore him when he pees down the back of the sofa.....
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
You've got to be ******* kidding me !!!
If I had a lad that did that he have a sore backside!!
edit again, and I wouldn't think twice of rubbing his face in it if he did it again.
EDIT *I blame the *namby pamby* parents
Andy
Recently a father got jailed for a short while, and a 6 month restraining order from his own wife, children and house because he smacked his child in public and the child's feet came off the ground, and he was reported and arrested
I take it you don't have children yourself, and maybe a dog that you treated like this when it was a puppy going through toilet training